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I didn't watch enough Jags games to compare but the stats don't back that up. Glennon has only .2 more intended air yards per attempt and .1 fewer completed air yards per attempt than Minshew. Their intended air yards per attempt were both more than Teddy's. I don't think Minshew has a cannon but he is certainly more aggressive with the ball than Teddy is. Despite that, he threw fewer interceptions per attempt. But we hopefully do better than either of them. If not, and if he's cheap, I don't mind Minshew.

Didn't we already have confirmation Verge is Phil Simms?

Arguably we had teams in the Fox years that were a good QB away from being very, very good. In the Cam years, it was often coaching or OL, and even a single difference on the OT... well, who knows... But your second paragraph is exactly why you can trade the farm for a QB once the rest of your team is in decent shape. Ours is not. Trading the farm for someone entirely unproven is a HUGE risk. I was on board when we were talking about an existing franchise talent, but... we have too many holes IMO to give up 3 first round picks and 2-3 2nd/3rds to get Wilson. If Fields falls to 5, he will be available for much less than that, though, and i'd be on board then.

I fully intend to return to insanity by this afternoon, thank you very much!

if anything what the 49ers trade shows is that if you feel you only need 1 piece to be competitive, you can sacrifice a ton. We are not 1 piece away, so sacrificing a ton for unproven commodity, even one as enticing as Wilson, seems too big a risk.

Wilson will cost as much as Watson would have before, it seems, which just feels ridiculous. Given that, and the fact that Atlanta is not a viable trade option, we're simply going to need to see how the draft falls.

Maybe... maybe not. Talk of SF taking Jones could mean Fields or Lance (more likely imo) is available to us. If not I'd like to take a shot at Minshew.

If we get one of the top 4 QBs, there is no reason to spend any significant draft capital on minshew. But if they would give him up cheaply, sure maybe. I still think you're looking at a 3rd or 4th and if you get a qb in round 1, I don't think you want to effectively get another qb with 3/4. I'd rather ride with Teddy for another year in that case while the rookie learns on the bench.. at least early

Worth noting that Minshew's percent of throws resulting in TDs was 4.9, and INTs was 1.5. Teddy's numbers were 3 and 2.2...

there's something ridiculous about internet trolls insulting division 1 athletes.

Do we know NE is still interested or is it just speculation?

I would probably prefer Minshew to most of the QBs outside the top 5 or 6... if we can get him for a 4th, we should.

All I mean is that if we can't get a QB in the first I still expect them to draft one at some point.

Maybe, maybe not... that contract suggests the Patriots themselves aren't so sure. He certainly will have a better offense around him now.

Not at all. Our team has lots of holes. But QB is a big one and Teddy's inability to perform with the game on the line was obvious.

ok, so Teddy can't win the game but if you put a star cast around him, maybe he won't lose the game? heh

More his game logs show inconsistency from one start to the next, and this year it was particularly clear in the last 4 games relative to the beginning of his year... I do think that coaching could correct his issues but I haven't watch as much of him as some others. I don't like him in the first round but who knows after that.

His job is to win games, if having to lead 4th quarter comebacks or game-winning drives is too much pressure, what is he good for?

The thing is, Teddy was billed as someone that would always take care of the ball, yet his int % doesn't show that to be the case. He may not want to take risks, but he sure isn't making the best decisions all the time, either. I would love last year to just be an unfortunate blip and for him to become a franchise guy for us this year, just don't see it as possible.

Hadn't seen this. Deeply disturbing. Feel horrible for those women... edit: this reads like a dude who is used to getting what he wants from women and thinks all he needs to do is demand it. given the frequency and some of the things he says it makes me wonder how many other women are afraid to come forward. fuged up.

I think regardless of how they perform on the field, the class will be historic because of how players will be taken, etc.

I would rather have Mond in the third than giving up 3 firsts for Lance, but if Lance is there at 8 or if we can get him without giving up the kind of haul SF did (should be possible), Lance seems to have a higher ceiling. Of course, Lance's competition is hugely concerning. He didn't look good in his only game in 2020 and his team didn't ever seem to trust him to carry them with his arm. However, he looks to have all the physical tools to succeed and clearly has decent decision making skills.

We also need a better backup option, though, because our current options are severely limited. Its true it is rare you get an elite guy outside the first, but that doesn't mean we should reach for any QB possible in the 1st either. I think we're in a position where we need to add something to our pool of QBs and the draft is still a possibility there, even if it isn't our "franchise". I also am fine with trading up a bit if one of the top 4 slides, or if Jones is who SF picks, I just don't expect that to happen.

he is infinitely better than Clausen. That still isn't saying much. lol right I mean remember, it isn't just our team / our offense impacted by covid, either. even if we assume Teddy does step up a light bit next year, would it be enough to truly make this team not just competitive but great? not really.

One reason I like going the route of one of the developmental prospects in not-the-first-round is that as painful as it might be to have Teddy as our starter in some respects, knowing there's someone behind him that has a shot at being the QB of the future would at least be nice.