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I would take a 3rd and never look back. The WRs around that pick are more likely to produce more than XL ever will.

Same people that said Bryce is better than Lawrence in week 1 this year...

That's not a negative but reality. Jags have been crap for years and also in a slightly tougher division where the Bucs have been cake walking into the playoffs since Brady got there. 8 wins isn't a big jump from 5. It just feels that way since the team has been run so poorly for so long that mediocre is somehow celebrated as dominance.

Positive? Absolutely. Getting it twisted? Lol nope. Rhule had two 5 win seasons so 5 wins can be done by people not even qualified to be in thr NFL if that helps to put it all into perspective? Ohh and the other Bucs OC already is at 10 wins in his first year HC.

WTF are you talking about? The team at #1 is one game over .500 while bearly beating the Bucs with a hurt Baker and losing to the Saints the week before. For any team not crawling out of a gutter that is a participation trophy level existence.

If they had a good coach then the division wouldn't be close, especially with the Saints crawling out of the mess and already having a team Carolina can't beat. The Panthers are 1 game above .500 so maybe just be happy for this mediocrity vs the last 6 years and not build it into something it's clearly not? And Bowles was always going to get fired. Im just surprised he came up with so many functional OCs for a defensive dinosaur HC.

100% agreed. They all had it coming because all of them were less than stellar hires in the first place. Even keeping Dan after 2023 was insane. This is the man that chose Hurney to begin his big NFL rollout LOL and that was after canning Ron when they both deserved it from the 2019 build.

Yeah I don't know with the way KC works and the people above him we could conclude one way or the other but taking a job here does raise that flag given the MO of Tepper's Panthers. I wonder how the one step forward and one back again is treating Tepper? Better than pure embarrassment for sure but everytime they come out and say they have arrived they turn around and get reality checked. I don't think that motivation will ever leave him. He comes off as a hungry for life type of guy to me.

Agreed. DC and QB will be the story of 2026 on the current trajectory. I see us as backsliding in 2026. It's like us game to game this year but seasons. These people are inconsistent and that doesn't seem to be changing. 5th year Bryce and Dave's noose is unavoidable and that's what I am still expecting until it changes. I still say he was too patient with Rhule. There were no justifiable reasons for a year 3 except what Tepper blew on that contract which is a pretty weak reason given that situation. Reich was a disaster and more Tepper's fault for making it unavoidable. Even Ron had run his course and looked like he was mailing it in doing it the Tepper way in 2019. If anything he wouldn't have to fire so much if he wasn't such a terrible at hiring. That's been a way bigger issue than firing too early IMO

I think Dan pushes more than Fritter did but not enough to shed that title. I think that's a huge assumption. He was second tier up there. Reid and owners being teir 1. So he actually could have been and still been a good fit. They have done lots of questionable stuff while he was up there but they were winning so it all flew under the radar anyways. Him coming out and being quoted the way he was leads me to think he runs that way plenty.

Dan wouldn't have been hired if he wasn't. Getting in Nicole's ear also reinforces that for me. Doesn't sound like Dan the pkayer but sure sounds like Dan the AGM and GM. Dave only hires yes men and sales people.

Well it's who they tied themselves to for at least another year but i agree. They will be lucky to find a useful contributor but until I see the DC situation change I am presuming it's SSDD. Well it sounds like maybe in 2027.

Had to get started on working with the passrushers we got. It was necessary and they do take time to develop. I get it but I would be fine with a 2 or 3 year TE option vs the draft. Yes to a real full time OC please. Good coaches work with what they have so if they have a good TE then start working them in. Line then up off the line if that's the case. Or do a QB sneak. Should open up more for the RBs too if any kind of a decent threat.

From ass to the pimple on the right cheek

I like the idea of signing a vet TE vs drafting one. That room is really underwhelming and it would open up options and allow them to focus in the draft on the many other areas needing upgrades.

Maybe but then again how sure can we be when the offense is held to such a level to function? I agree your probably right. I think extrem is oline, MLB and QB followed by Dline. The rest are 'should look anywhere to keep upgrading' type situation.

Well the people in charge thought they addressed that but are being proved wrong. Now it's a hope of development thing moving forward. Burns wouldn't have that production here either this year. He only produced 1 year in his total time here like is for them this year. They also put more effort i to stopping the run vs rushing too.

I agree. I was just using the pure BPA theory and not our BPA theory...which gave us XL vs Ladd. All things being equal then WR isn't near the top of my lists tho. I don’t think we know what we have at WR and won't until the QB position is upgraded.

Or UNC fans

He is worth a late round pick so fine with me. Make space for someone else and head off the drama when everyone else jumps him on the depth chart. I just don't get another forst round pick WR unless that BPA has zero competition from other positions.

Similar situation but that would be a better version than what we currently have. Sam isn't a franchise QB but he is a good bridge guy. Either Seatle finds a young guy to groom or they have hit their ceiling. They 100% can't put it on Sam's shoulders and expect to win but the team needs to carry less with him at QB to win vs what this team has to do with Bryce.

The funny part is she looks older and not in a good way...

How about some line help, both sides, first. Trade XL before talking about a 1st round WR 3 years in a row. Or a TE or...drum roll...a QB to pair with a vet. And if it's not a speedy route guy with hands then just hard pass.

And they still brought in people to fit his D. Im talking about the quality of what they brought in and not why there aren't more DBs and Horns. His guys have been not good IMO. Jackson was a DM guy too.

Worse actually. Dude has been run out of places that had great DCs before he showed up.