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All 100% but this was the worst part for me. They were leaning on him in the first half instead of working him in and protecting him. That is just incompetent especially when they didn't give him all of the 1st team reps in the preseason.

Let me clarify. Bake is a QB that is best suited to a run first offense. Not the spread, pass heavy you saw today. It is what covers up most of his weaknesses and allows him to thrive.

100%. It is not set up well and used even less well. I have zero faith these people can turn it around. Baker is who he always was. Run the ball, let him make a few plays and don't put it on his back. When we came out and threw it 3 times to open the game with a 3 & out I knew it was not going to be a true run first offense that would work best for him. Don't ask him to be who he isn't and he will not be our biggest problems.

He is a better QB than Sam. He is also a run first and often QB. In that capacity he can be effective. Force it and he will be awful. It's really simple with a 4 year sample on where he thrives.

You are not wrong and it is an important distinction from last year. He will be who he was in Cleveland, some dry games and some stat padding games. He will not carry a win often.

That was always going to be the outcome. He isn't on the roster next season and that is a great thing moving forward if he won't come back for another low cost contract for us. Spent a 5th on a maybe.

You should be right but I am expecting implosion. All the elements are there and now the pressure is being added. They will win some games but I don't think it will be more than last year even if they are more competitive.

I was told it is much improved. Wait for the process and watch the brand... The scheme is a failure and now the roster is tied to it. Just hire an offensive minded HC and a 3-4 DC. I don't think the transition would be great outside of a true NT.

Frist Cleveland win on opening week in 10 years I looked up and I think they said 14 years on the broadcast. Change the coach. Dream about the owner. And hope for a top QB in 2023.

It's official. We are a dumpster fire and there is no silver lining

Look in the trash and be offended to find garbage? Just different types of not good enough...Sam is unplayable for real tho

Will they run it or be the Browns on opening week? I bet it's not run

This is a terrible game. It is all just so bad lol

Even if they win nothing changes. Like last year with the Jets the problems are on display and the underhand opening game from the NFL again won't change our future.

Or hire a new Offensive backed coach and a 3-4 DC. He is an edge guy we are misusing.

Game was always winnable...they are both their own worst enemy. Eerily similar. Incompetent coaching and lots of talent and high picks.

Week 1 broken play from the D.

Like I said these are 2 bad teams. All they had to do is prevent lol

This is the D Snow envisioned. Burns should be an edge with 12 to 15 sacks a year. We could do a true 3-4 next year. I would also like to see Brown at DE in a 3-4 with a real NT injected like they damn well should have already.

Cue Benny Hill music

I want to see us try a true 3-4 and not this light ass 4-3 BS.

Fact

I was there when Rhule was kept and haven't really budged becuase I couldn't see anything but this. Sorry man, it stinks. I just hope player development continues. How they did Ickey is this game leaves me with concerns even there sadly. Yeah, fire them all but they need a couple of more painful games first.