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Too early for worst Panther HC debate? I guess we could wait till after the Atlanta game but it still feels like the right time.

I don't trust anyone in house at this time to be qualified to make a competent decisions. Tepper knows very little about how the NFL works outside of the finances. Most of the front office people are Hurney hires, enough said, keep them away. Frtitts is a Rhule quality GM, we could do better anyways and there is nothing I have seen in his resume to feel good about what he would look for in a HC. That's how we get a worse Rhule. Tepper needs to bring in a short term answer over everyone regardless of the specifics of movement. This place is infested with incompetence now and he doesn't know how to fix it. If we want a shot at a real coach and not another Rhule, Gase or Kelly then we need to bring someone skilled and experienced in, hopefully more good than bad experience.

We haven't won late in the year since 2017. Some of us are still living in the past. Making a late run this year would be going against the new norm.

We have no idea what the new offense will look like....but I'm sure most of us suspect what it will look like. At least it is exciting again. Lol

Rhule has done enough to get fired already, all that is left are some games to prove why he shouldn't be fired. If he can't do it now what could he do to do better next year? Study? Practice? Hire an experienced OC thats going to teach him how the NFL works and how to be an NFL HC? The 3rd year isn't automatic, even Ron had to rally at the end of his 2nd year. It's not just wins and loses but showing reasons why we can't do better elsewhere. So far he has failed to do that.

The only HC situation is in college period. I'd be shocked to see him as an OC in the NFL next year but it's possible. How this team does could impact some of that.

True. Still don't know the entire details either of what has been going on behind the scenes here completely. Brady is too way inexperienced to be hoping he becomes your next HC in the NFL tho. It will be fun to see where he goes. Does he take up the HC role in a college or does he go put in the work with some team in the NFL? I can't think of a situation where a NFL team would seriously hire him as an OC yet but who knows. Like you said, football is weird.

At least he has an entire year and change of experience now. That's a lot better then when he came here. Dude is super young, he just needs to go somewhere for some more NFL experience. Still, HC? Just too funny

Brady was never qualified for the job, same for Rhule. Overhyped, overpromoted and sadly not surprising given their histories.

I agree 100%. When Hurney came back I knew Ron was doomed here. Their only winning season o the 2.0 was with another GMs roster.

I think you nailed it. DG was like a real boss and Ron hated it, even tho he performed at his best for those years as imperfect as it was.

The funny part was Ron really wanted Hurney back. Some people just don't learn how to walk away from an Ex.

It was right to let Rivera go, it was time. Keeping him would have been wrong. Looking at WTF I'm not jealous. Rhule was a bad hire but Tepper also kept Hurney so no real surprise there. I'm ready for the next option, I'm not missing the past or soon to be past.

So your saying a good oline and a 99% run to pass ratio protects a rookie QB? Damn, who would have thunk it...

As an OC? Yes, even when we had an OC. Not close at all. As a HC? Same difference. Do not want.

Just because he is a very good OC doesn't automatically make him a good HC. It's almost like some of you can't remember why he is a terrible HC and HC candidate. There is actually proof why that would have been a horrible idea.

Rivera was always his own worst enemy. He went Riverboat to change it up. As fans, that's a realistic hope. It almost worked one year. There just isn't much positive that Rhule brings to the table. Lack of skill and knowledge make it years to see if he could learn enough to be competitive. His hype is deflating and even Snow can't prop him up on this level.

Are the Panthers playing college ball next year? The one guy with the experience we desperately need and it's the guy who got caught tanking. What a pooshow.

No idea what a pack of desperate people will do when the pressure is on. I would think it's Cam regardless, it was all Brady right? lol, because that's what Tepper wants because that gets people to show up. OMG, if they trot Sam out again it's going to be hilarious. I kind of hope they do that and then maybe Tepper can find better people to waste picks and years. Just start Cam and see if the new playcaller can figure out how that whole thing works, the last guy couldn't.

I assume it was decided earlier and someone decided to hide their shame...If not, JFC we are in for worse people. The possibilities on that side are frightening. Either way, I expect at least a mild pooshow moving forward. And that includes the easiest game they could ask for coming out of a bye.

Meh, it was never a great hire and his positives are out weighed by the negatives IMO. Some here just want to blame it on all Rhule but he had a hand in this mess. The fact Rhule liked him and wanted him here is the kiss of death. His evaluation skills are terrible and that is his forte (exceprt CB of course, that is golden lol).

Would the Seachickens be willing to poach Fritts for a 2nd? That would be my wish if that ownership finally decided to show up and do something.

Couldn't even call an entire game for the full offense. I have seen where the OC was really under the HC who was calling the game but that is some BS right there. You got a bad OC that can't call pass plays and this genius that has no idea how the rest of the offense works and certainly not big picture. WTF.

Well I meant as a coach that actually called a game and not whatever the fug that is. No hate on you sir, that is just some weird BS. That's like saying a QB has some playcalling experience from using audibles. I guess it's technically true while being misleading.

Ok, zero meaningful playcalling. Was the OC getting a drink or using the bathroom?