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So where will we play him out of position like we did with 80% of the line last week?

Sadly true. It's the FU that keeps giving new FUs.

This was already covered in another thread. Hurney approved of Rhule and Tepper went along with it. They were both in the room and in on it. As for the contract, tell me it doesn't look like a Hurney contract? What was the percentage of fault on the contract? No idea but Tepper did allow it to go down like that regardless but Hurney was right there giving his all. https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/174094-keep-fitterer-and-morgan/?do=findComment&comment=5667984 From the introductory press conference. David Tepper's own words. And Marty's going with his toughness and his questions and we're about halfway through the interview and Marty Hurney starts melting down. And you could Marty and he's like 'I've gotta get into recruiting mode now.' So Marty goes from total interview mode to putting on the recruiting mode. And Steve and I looked at each other and looked at Marty and didn't say a word, and we just all went into recruiting mode because we knew we had something special.

The coaches pay is just a normal expense on the P & L. So more expense would just result in more offset of the income at the end of the year. I'm not sure on the cash flow of the organization, I haven't heard how they operate that side at all. It could be there as normal operating activity can cover that, income & expenses, or he could keep all of the cash working in an investment elsewhere instead of sitting idle and put it back when needed. Lots of ways to run the business side and completely depends on how he wants to operate. Either way, if he put money into the organization then it's just equity he can take out when he wants and however fits his tax planning.

This entire staff is a Hurney level product, all of them.

That is an easy fix and a huge part of why we ended up with Fitts.

OMG, Tepper wanted Rhule but he also wanted Hurney to hold his hand during the process. Both are true, Rhule is a Tepper and Hurney guy, which makes all the other hires including Fritts an extension of Hurney and Tepper. The percent of blame really doesn't matter because Hurney should have already been fired by that point. Tepper fugged all of this up but he had a lot of help along the way. IF he learned anything he needs to have learned why when you clean house, you clean the entire thing or this is the kind of mess you make and the time you waste.

I don't have that trust in him. I am very concerned about that guy helping with the next coach search. His positives are heavily outweighed by his negatives. We need a better GM before we hire the next batch. The fact is we hired him to be a GM under Rhule, that eliminated all of the good GM options off the top form the get go. I have no idea why people rally behind the guy, he is no different than the rest of the staff. He just seems like the new Hurney here.

Rhule is the Darnold of HCs. So maybe there is another Tepper out there running things lol

And there was Slater but people here still want Fritts next year. It's like the bread where you use some of the last batch to make a new batch. We keep acting surprised it's contaminated when we are still using the dough with mold in it...

People loved Hurney too... No matter how you spin it, Fritterer had a hand in this mess and incompetence. Hell, just being Rhule's GM should be enough to want to go in a different direction. What hire did Rhule make with his staff here that was ever a good hire? Yeah we need a new GM or we will be in the same sad spot in another 2 years, maybe worse.

I don't really dislike the guy enough to wish that on him.

But not day of sales. Those are not shared and do matter. The thing about billionaires is they tend to have egos to match their bank accounts. This is his team and it represents him in many ways. He cares, now we need to see him un-fug the mess he made. If Tepper didn't care at all Cam wouldn't be back and we would have had to watch PJ and Barkley. Caring and being good/competent are not mutually inclusive.

Talent and coaching is an issue here. They can't find it and they wouldn't know what to do with it anyways. Also, expecting Fritts to bring in good olinen is hilarious. That dude is 0-4 last offseason at this point. Nothing is going to change with this crew, they are all awful.

What is like a tie but both sides lose? Double forfeit? This is like asking which turd looks prettier. It's all crap man. The loser is all of us who had to watch this crew shart it all up for 2 years of football.

Fire everyone. The pro-personnel people, the GM and the coaching staff. I'm cool with Morgan as long as he doesn't spend anymore time with the rest of the garbage. Tepper should be working on hiring the expert to bring in to do the heavy lifting. If they keep the trash in place then nothing is going to change. The house is infested with incompetence. Burn it or have it infect the next staff.

You know we have to do the free agent pickups this offseason. They bet wrong and now we will either do a bad contract for us or let him walk for jacksh$t. So same old Panthers, different faces lol

I don't think just coaches changes it, there is a lot of front office staff I would have to see also changed. I have so little faith in so many places in this organization. We will see but first we have to finish the season. Hahaha

So what does the process look like when they decide on who plays where on the line?

Sadly I don't see that trend changing for thr better at this point.

As Panther fans, we have seen some bleak seasons. Your right about 2010, we knew we were getting a top 3 pick and a new staff, but we all knew Hunrey would be there to muck it up. This year? We can only guess with this mess. I'll still watch but I'm not too serious about it all. Just enjoy the day, multitasking with other fun things. I do a lot of laughing but I have a dark sense of humor.

Still Slater and it's not close. Yall want to pretend Mac would look good here? No one would look good playing QB for the Panthers. I bet he would look like Sam by the end of the year...