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But Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield... It's the Brees thing all over again. Some of these guys are just Wilsons and Lances. And those guys actually had intangibles to try the whole project thing. Young as a project has shown no upside. His technique is beyond bad. His vision is bad. His physicals are not NFL level. He knows it and won't throw the ball farther than the LOS because without a high completion percentage he has nothing at all so he holds onto it as his lifeline. It's comical. Not worth the fight IMO when you can just laugh at the absurdity of it all. I'm laughing still

They picked up 3 $7 million a year guys and a $5 a year guy...except for the CB I don't think they are playing all that well. I'm not sure that side spending more would have changed much anyways. That's what I'm telling myself until the people brought in under the DC start doing better.

It's beyond repair this year. The blew their wad giving Young no excuses and they are going to have to coach up someone. The DC brought in Jewell at 7 a year. Robinson at a little less. Jackson is solid at about the same price which is good IMO. Fuller at 5. They actually chose these guys and spent more than I thought on them. That's a GM and DC issue IMO. As long as the offense is scoring I'm fine. Everyone gets to prove themselves this year or get gone. Winning would be nice but looking competitive is so much fun still that I'm not sweating it yet.

Moore was a disaster of a trade, it should never have happened. He was on a good contract and he shouldn't have been on the block. Burns should have been a blockbuster trade, what they got was a guy who wasn't worth the contract from that fallout for a 2nd. CMC would have just been ruined here quicker since that is where he is now anyways, an injury prone RB for a 2nd is not sexy but it's justified. I'm fine with finding another GM too. A team in the gutter like this one needs to learn to draft better or it won't matter because you can't buy your way out of this mess with the cap in place. I'm not put off by getting more draft capital because that is the right move here. Yeah the D line stinks but that's why I said don't spend big at OG. It's wasn't worth it and this deal at the amount he is looking for isn't worth it for the team. That D isn't going to get better by overpaying more people on the other side.

It doesn't exist in the NFL. Right now his strongest skills are cashing checks and being a cheerleader. Doesn't matter. The excuses are still out there. All I hope in his regards is we aren't the dummies that try to prove there is some untapped well of talent that was already missed. He can't see the field for poo and even he knows he can't make the throws. People comparing him to Baker are high or blind.

Yes. Anytime the team knows they can't or shouldn't resign a guy that's what they should be doing. That was moving Burns when 'the offer' came in. Jackson was a good move too. Letting guys walk for nothing or trading them with less value so you can squeeze one more meaningless year of play out of them is the bad choice. Jackson was traded for that reason and it was a good call.

He is fun to watch and good but with all the wasted cap they need to deal with to clean up the roster I don't know how they do it. I'm fine with rolling through the season hoping the young guys can be coached up and letting him go find his money bags. If we drafted better we wouldn't have needed to trade for him. This team might only be able to afford one decent free agent this offseason so it's a hard sell for me on an extension. A bunch of these guys should be dealt for picks. That would be the smart move with anyone they can't afford next year. We have seen enough to know that there is more cleaning up needed to be done and at best this year is still a top 10 pick. Go get the assets to do a true rebuild and Johnson could help that.

Carr just like Young was a victim of his ability and skill. Carr had a 7 step drop and even then in the NFL the 5 step was rarer. Carr accounted for lots of those rookie sacks while his line played poorly. To be Carr'ed is just to be the main problem anyways. The take that the oline ruined him was always wrong. He ruined himself by not adapting to the NFL and kept his school level stuff that does not work in the NFL. It took him years to clean his technique up but he just wasn't very good anyways. He hit over 3500 yards and 60% completion in his 3rd year but the TD to INT ration was almost 1 to 1. David Carr just stunk and always did, those rookie hits were not the cause of that even if he had a brutal rookie year. He wouldn't have looked good in a clean pocket either because he was never a good QB at this level. Completely agree on the second part. He has no one thing that is NFL level so it's hard to imagine he will have any success at this level. They spent a lot on protecting him and it was an interception and not a hit that broke him this season. Eventually he will go somewhere else and do the same thing Carr did which is prove he should never have been the #1 in any draft.

That's true everywhere on this roster. I just didn't see enough yet.

Worse than the Madden curse

They still on average gave almost 3 seconds to the QB. https://x.com/throwthedamball/status/1739773008045056318 The OGs were bad and plays fell apart but a decent QB could work with that. Look at all the QBs with less time to throw. Also with all those plays falling apart in the middle that means on other plays he had well over 3 seconds. It wasn't good but he was so much worse.

When I said that last year I was met with disbelief. The line, the WR separation, etc. In the end he made everything around him worse. And trying to make him work here made the team worse. Lots of lessons in the Young failure. I think we have to see him again and I hope it is short and they just move on with Plumber or someone else. At this point I don't even think Young is a PS guy. There just is no upside with him at this level.

Yes! This is not a playoff team and there are going to be more losses. It's still better than the last year and guys are getting their chances. So many projects so there will be lows and hopefully some highs. At best they are still picking top 10 and at worst top 3. Just keep breathing and be thankful they even have a chance to prove something every week.

It's Andy. Some good, some bad and some meh. Coker should get another shot with AT out. Now that the high is over they can work on that stuff this week. That's what I really want to see. Week to week improvement.

Great to hear. I haven't heard that yet. It's a frustrating thing at best to endure and the exhaustion and stress of all of it tends to get to people. I know they are collecting supplies here all over the place to send up that way when groups leave to go help.

People were ready to hand him a long term contract after last week. This is more reasonable and normal. It's still fun and the young guys are getting their shots.

Sounds like they got the helicopters to the area. I don't think hurricane plans really include that much air power at the coast. It's a different playbook up there and it doesn't look like they are doing air drops yet. Here on the coast they just boat or drive it in but they should be dropping off manpower and shipping containers of goods up there by air. I hope they get it to yall soon!

This is the kind of year where you play what you have and decide if they should be here next year. Time to coach up where they can. No offensive guys please anyways. Maybe a D guy if it really made sense and didn't cost too much but we really should sit tight. I would say we should be sellers but they already sold off most of the team and then picked the guys we already want to be replaced.

Learn to draft better. Trading can't fix this issue. Throwing money at it isn't an option either. They are going to have to scrape something together moving forward. They already made this bed and now they have to sleep in it.

Which is what I originally said.

Some of those guys he actually wanted. It cuts both ways

He never was. They also didn't spend enough on that side. The problem is it's his 2nd year so even without spending enough the guys here aren't really holdovers. It's a coaching and talent issue. He needs to do better with what we have. Today he didn't.

It's honestly the kind of ugly game they needed after the high of last week and the wasteland before that. Dalton is fun. IDGAF It's fun even if there is a lot of ugly

HAHA me either. I don't do fantasy but I always check out those QB lists for fun....there just hasn't been a lot to have over the years.

I always check it out because they get funny with it. Karma LOL