Basbear

Is this an original Scot take? If so props.

I think he fired two people soon after he got hired, one just got a job with WFT. Mark Carrier was the other, Scot would know.

Im changing mine- Move CB to 7th. RT to 6th and DT to 5th. Zone is ran too much to cover up lesser CBs, thus lowering the ranks for me. If theres was a true man-to-man elite corncer, that gos back to 5th, but theres not one like that except maybe Rams, but they still run zone at times.

I see the best quarterback in the draft on one play, and on the next play, I see a guy that makes stupid mistakes. Throws off his back foot a lot. Has a lot of balls tipped. He’s a first-rounder, but I wouldn’t take him until the bottom (of the round).” Thats my same take on Fields and I hate those types. I remember posting in the first Fields thread, "He looks like a UDFA", then the next game "He looks like a top three pick" Ive had him as a late 20s pick since and have not moved any. Lance is great stuff as well, I like that taste comment.

Brugler is the best overall draft source. Doesnt matter mocks, ranks, rumors etc. Hes got legit history too, I mean hes been right loads of time and built up credit imo. McGinn posts real scouts takes for many players, great stuff in all. DJ at NFL.com is great for ranking, its shows his distain for mocks(honestly I dont care for mocks either). Jeff legwold is another great draft read, just he releases his top 100 soooo late (like one week before the draft). Still its different and hes got great information on that list that I respect. Tony Pauline is good for rumors and draft news. Greg cosell and Jay Glazer are in my circle of trust for NFL news in general and if they report some draft news I listen as well. I may be missing some other lesser known draft guru, but these are my main go-tos for draft fixed.

Its fair, I have concerns too and just like everyone even Lawrence have things to work on and improve. Just he has elite upside skills and you only get that by drafting them very early. Plus if there was more tape like the 42-0 TD year, no chance he'd make it til the panthers. I mean most/all players like Lance get better(college-wise), cannt think of a college guy that followed a great year with a dud in recent time.

Ill go out on a limb and say if a certain player wants to sign a big deal, they will. The thing about Moton is this, they know what it would take and could at any point sign him to lower his cap number more. So its a power move, we dont have space is miss leading.

What are you talking about??? It not like theres history with these moves. Or the fact how other teams pay ILBs and RBs. Trends are dumb too, future learning my ass! Im not stoopid YOURE THE STOOPID ONE!!!1!1!!!!

I swear a few of these guys will just retire rather than take a small one year deal. Draft will be more valuable this year and UDFAs too.

Bob is in my circle of trust for draft news, miss reading his pieces.

4. Sit tight and hope Lance falls to #8. This would be extremely risky and I think you only make this play if you're also willing to entertain another QB option in the draft. 5. Sign Mitch Trubisky. He's a free agent so no trade would be necessary. It would be a "prove it" deal so signing him wouldn't necessarily eliminate any of the other draft options already discussed. I would much rather sign Trubisky to a prove it deal than draft Mac Jones at #8. 8. Trade for Garner Minshew. The Jags are drafting Trevor Lawrence. Minshew has real value as a backup, but so would a mid-round pick to help them build around Lawrence. Minshew is also still on a dirt cheap rookie contract so this move would have minimal cap implications. Some of y'all might be rolling your eyes at this suggestion, but do understand that we are WELL into the "oh fug, this is NOT going our way" portion of the list. I echo these, just think its beyond dumb to trade picks for a QB for this current teams roster. Panthers need talent and picks help that.

Or maybe a good spot to buy low...

Maybe he identifies differently, did you every think of that jerkface!1!!11!1!!...

That would fine, its harder to find a great LT than QB.... and with the current team its not a 100% must getting a QB this year. They tired to sign Haskins. Mitch, Hundley, and Garder are cheap options too. Should have signed Winston this past year for cheap, rather than Teddy two times..

Williams was terrible as a LT and OG, *NOT* as a RT. He was 2nd team all-pro and just had a great year at RT again. So again should have kept and *played* Williams at RT and moved Moton to LT. Both would be around 25 years old and the OL would have been in great shape for the now and future. Panthers blew this.

For personal reasons, Im glad he "stunk" and glad theres no combine for him too. I just hope enough brain cells are firing correctly over at Panthers headquarters to on top of the Lance sweepstakes.

One of the biggest WTF about Lance is the concerns about his throws. How can you watch him run around then throw 50 yard bombs and go " Welll I dont know about this guy... "

Calvin was in the wishbone offense. Not many teams since the 50s run the wishbone. Total different verbiage. His assignments for each play like blocking would be different than an air raid system. Clemson could call any play and gain 10 yards, until those championship games...

Waldo just doesnt want to watch Teddy take another panther snap, plenty share that take.

Honestly like I said it depends on what the NFL is going with training camp, rookie camp, OTAs, all off season stuff. The rumors are to get rid of all/most of it and that would ruin many rookies chances especially QB rookies. Rookies like Lance would be hurt the most. I thought Herbert would need some time and maybe the whole year, but every QB is different. Even the worlds best player needed one year of development, that can be a reason for Mahomes greatness as well.

Should have kept and PLAYED Darrell Williams at RT, then moved Moton to LT. Now both OT are set and fixed for the long term....

He does have poor throws, but raaaarely has INTs/TOs!! Nearly all coaches will run with 6 yards a clip, especially in a cold weather league. The one year of real tape does make drafting QB a higher risk and other recent one year wonders have not help either. He is not ready for week 1, but has makeup and skills to be a great NFL QB. I even say this, depending on the NFL rules for the coming year. It would make it super hard for ALL rookie QBs(especially Lance) to develop.

Maybe the two worst valued spots on a team, now they double/triple down a dumb move much further... Could have cut shaq this year and saved more as a post June, now panthers are stuck with him getting with a 20 million cap number in 2023.....ugh. Should have never signed CMC to start with. Just 5th year him and maybe tag one extra year, then the wear and tear for cost is too much....as shown this year. Fritterererer should be reading Herniay left over notes, cause this is almost the same method he used for 15 years...

Could have released him this year with a post June cut and saved 11 million with only 3 in dead.... net of 8 more than the kick the can method.

You still didnt answer the question. Theres plenty of throws(without INTs I add) form Lance to watch and ND is a pro system. They averaged nearly 6 yards a run, why stop getting 6 yards in a less risk matter? Plus would you have passed on Calvin Johnson cause he didnt run many routes or catch many balls?