Basbear

kicker is weird about the value it carries. Darrin has said what you did and I agree unless the team is a upper playoff or just firm playoff roster. If its a solid team, you need to have one of those top kickers. The pressure is totally different kicking in a 14-3 playoff game than a end of season 1-14 game. Kickers' value is based loads on the type of team they are on. Plus I've always maintained its beyond dumb to waste draft picks on kicker, punter, or LS. Like you said there's the elite and bunch of guys ranked 10-25 and then 20 more in tier 3. Teams are always cutting good ones for whatever reasons as well. I make the similar statements about backup QB. WHo cares about the backup on a 5-12 team..... but if the roster is stacked, its your top job to get a great backup QB. I'd even say its a top 10 position on a playoff team. Everyone thinks it was Brady was the reason for those playoff wins and Superbowls, but I member Adam Vinatieri winning plenty of those games(ugh..). Justin Tucker is another example and he's finally got old this past year. KC has a elite one too........ It's a super important part if the whole team is playoff bound.

icky was free to stunts, biltzs, and twists last year- same for the whole OL. that's when I gave up on campy, zero improvement form week2week. OL was not listening, then reports of tepper, fittererererrer, tepper wife watching OL drills......I'm out. Lastly how does this guy think he would coast on his "good" rookie season??? the whole time campy was giving help to him and holding his hands. then he entered season 2 and thought it would repeat?? I got just little more faith in ickys turnaround over young's. He should have gotten benched last season too. He must workout, cause you can not be a team that's looking for LT, QB, WR, and edge at the same fuging time.....SOMEONE has to step up!

Such a poo show now, made it easy to drop following them.

You either need to do waaay more drugs or waaay less drugs, your current intake is not right. Sorry I can not advise on which path to take.

How does anyone trust drugs these days? Only path I see, is using a test kit.

Bro they shouldn't have won those 2 games either. It took a couple 4th down conversions and 2 last second FGs. I hate to poo on fellow fans thinking 8 wins is within reach, the odds are nano size. I do not know the future and there are surprise teams each year, but the Panthers are not one of them this year. Young would need to break records and evero would have to win assistant of the year. This team lacks talent, young talent to be more correct. The best thing going for them is the piss poor NFC south. It took the heavens opening to beat ATL and they should be favored by 17 this year. Even in the worst division them barely won 2, this team is B-A-D.

None of them are form NC..

You'd just smoke up the profits, tho.......

Bryce is tough, but those two are light years tougher. Plus I can not name another sam mills or Smitty clone......my 1930s football is weak. That's the deal the odds are stacked against him. Plus my biggest issue was there's no- elite trait to make up for his size lack. Vick was a small&short NFLer, but he had elite movement and speed to make you go " I DO NOT CARE if he's 5'9.75, he just scored a 75 yard TD in which the defenders ran into themselves!!" He does have the rules are made to over protect QBs, unlike during Vicks era. Not to mention vick had a cannon along with elite wheels.

I think giving Brady the #1 spot will be a huge mistake. The other mistake was giving Brady that insane contract, what a joke. Greg was a natural and still finding his pace when he talks too much. He should get the #1 spot back when Brady is done after this year.

If they add chips to the football, how will bryce young throw them?!?!?!

facebook angles with AI, tech gone too far!!

new wakanda?!?!?

He is one unlucky dude, only other rookie Ive such praise for was CMC. Horn already had a pro mindset. Just like CMC he may over work his body. Hope he's here and health for a long time.

there's the "king" and most feared RB in the league.

Carolina is at the stage where its dreaming to think dak would even come here, no matter your opinion of his play. Best QB we had in 6 years is teddy 2 gloves, but posters here don't want dak....drug test da huddle!1!!1!

This is your best huddle post in history!

I felt the Cam vibes on the huddle with Bryce, in fact its almost there. Threads that have no mention of young, turn in them. Only deal is Cam had tons more supporters/nut huggers. I honestly hated talking Cam with 90% of the huddle, in many eyes he was perfectly accurate with all his throws and if he had a legit great game the true haters were missing in action. Cam board is now a Bryce board...

Yes they were in the Panthers shoes, but the deal is they had talented players on the roster. 49ers hired the same firm that Panthers used, they gave lynch a 6 year deal and he never been GM or scout. I believe he was doing color commentator games. They gave chip Kelly one year and before Jim " I only eat meatball subs" Tomsula one year, huge mess. Shanny is one of the best young minds in the NFL and he did save the 49ers. That's want panthers need a savior..... It is hope for the Panthers, just need talented players and NOT to trade them away or over pay them....

Canalas came out a while back and said he wanted a vet type QB3, odd with Dalton. All reports Dalton's has been a great mentor for young. I agree with you, In the 5th I wanted them to toss a pick on a QB and had eyes on Jordan Travis. Even at that point the hater rattler would have been welcomed in my eyes. I liked what the pats did after drafting maye, Milton has some talent. Purdy was drafted a long with lance. Cousins was drafted with rg3. Panthers already had delhome, I doubt that happens again for some time. They shouldn't be scare to add legit competition for young, this is the NFL.

The people at the top of chiefs. bills, and 49ers the owners, coaches, GM are just light years better than panthers. Purdy was a life saver for 49ers, otherwise lynch and shanny would have been fired. I seen a recent report that after a few practices shanny told York purdy was the best QB on the roster. Better than jimmyg, lance, darnold. I hope Morgan and canalas show they close the gap, at least tepper spends plenty.......

I do think 8 wins is the top limit for this group. Honestly them not winning a game has similar odds. So 0-8 is the range. Add in the owner, last six years, No real first pick while nfc south had theirs among other low picks aka they got better, lost Burns, luvu, djak and others solid vets(boz, bell, etc). Last second FG wins, never lead in the 4th, didn't score a single point the final 2 games. Im going with 2 dubs and I hope a surprise 8 wins claims the NFC south as they label the Panthers as the worst playoff team in NFL history!!

DL doesn't look bad compared to other groups- Turtle, Dbrown, Clowney, Robinson, and wonnum. That's 5 guys that are or have been solid or above average for most of their careers. In fact Id say its the strength of the panthers. No ones too old or coming off a bad injury. Depth-wise it is down right bad, just need to avoid injuries much like LB. I agree with you about finding just win, I got them match last seasons 2 wins. *I still feel NFC south is wild enough that if the planets align, panthers *could cash in their lotto ticket winner and shock the world. Cousins setback and penix sucks. LOL @ carr and HC Dennis Allen. TB used their luck and bakers play comes back to earth. Young shows he deserves that #1 pick and evero calls a masterful year.......... .0000000001567399% chance. Thats the best I can hope for, tons of miracles.....

1% chance he's great That's why I believe this 'rebuild' will take 4 years. I don't see anyone thus far that believing he will be great. I am hoping he will just be good enough. I also hate the fact that before young was picked, he was the answer to not having a great OL or WRs. Now one year later- 170 million spent on 3 Olmen, trade for starting CB for a troubled but talented WR, and use the first 2 draft picks on WR&RB. (4th on TE). NOW the plan is to run the ball until fan boo form foxball flash backs.Terrible no matter the perception. Just about any street QB could be hidden behind a run game, but here the Panthers are doing it for a Qb that they traded a huge haul for including the best valued WR in the league. Failure to the max.