Basbear

I was typing in 2025 regards about AT. In that post of yours, you were discussing the future 2025 WR room. I posted that sportac link and there's a out where its only 5mill dead and 8mill cap. So you save 3mill(not if you include his replacement...). This year based on his contract, you almost must keep him and if some team calls during the trade deadline.....take whatever the offer is.... Mostly roster building is now a constant rebuild, the WR room will need action here. Just the 39th in 22, 32nd in 23, and what another 35th in 24.......someone please step up!! ps, check out the the new IR rules. I posted a new thread here, you are able to place 2 players on IR after the final PS game and final cut. In past you had to keep them one day on the roster before. I fill panthers will take advance of this new rule to the max this year.

I may have the lot, but its in bits This year the NFL is allowing teams to put two players on injured reserve ahead of the final cutdowns that they can designate for return later on in the season. Those two distinctions need to be made during the final cuts, those being the cuts that are made between the end of the final preseason game and the aforementioned roster deadline, as opposed to moves made earlier in the preseason. (you got to think Dante Jackson will be used here....maybe Crumedy as well) While each player may be designated for return twice a season, a team is allowed just eight returns from IR during the regular season. In the latest adjustment to the rule, a team appearing in the postseason will be allowed 10 returns that year. (panthers postseason lols) Old refresher - Most of the rules remain the same. Once a player is placed on the list, they must miss at least four of the team’s games. While on IR, they are not counted on the team’s active roster — although their compensation is still counted against the salary cap. After four games, a player may be designated to return, which opens a 21-day window during which they can attend practices but are still not counted on the active roster. If they are not activated to the roster during this period, they must remain on IR for the rest of the season. Roster nerds take note.....

Don't tell anyone, but I think Moton could be cut as well.....Id cut him if he didn't take a pay cut in 2025. Hes at 30 million cap number and 12 dead....that's 18 saving..... Sanders is 100% getting cut unless he goes for 2k. Morgan will have PLENTY to think about in 25, many tough/hard decisions. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/overview/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total I think he's going to have close to 30 again in dead cap space.

I get that and agree. I just feel this team is a terrible fit for him, ie winning. He had some comments about the past year being the worst and he had to do some soul searching. It doesn't make sense form a contract side. I've thought of it, but its a total nightmare fuel.....imagine 2023 WITHOUT AT........Panther would have owned some of worst records in history.

He's knows the defense holes and he just sits in them or runs a old man slant, *still very well. I'd say its time to move on sooner than later. Honestly if not for cap hit, Id say cut him now....... (that's the heartless GM side.) Panthers should do better than 35 year old 5.09 40 dude with a 8mill cap hit.

He's simply too slow, age already pulling on his ankles. If you still want to keep him around, give him some BS coaching title and let him coach up the WRs. It already feels 2025 the 1st or 2nd will be spent on WR.......

I don't know if its the homer in me or what. I thought the Panthers would claim around 5 players and going over the roster.......I see about 3 guys that....most likely to get cut and claimed by another team. Where's the room??? OLB is the hole, is leota better than what's hitting the wavier?? He was a claim last year. Hate away, the OL feels as strong as its been since 2015*health is needed and what can yoshi do?? I think Brady Christensen is only panthers backup that would start on a few teams. Carry on....

I think AT gets cut - https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/13071/adam-thielen I don t see Johnson coming back. Just WR market is as crazy as its been, some team will drop him a bag even with a so-so season. I think he flirts with 1K and few TDs. Honestly its looking like WR is back on the early draft menu. Edge should be #1, if young........ you are leftd with this in 2025 mingo xl 2025 second rounder FA Coker? ???? looks messy if xl or mingo doesn't develop FAST!!

I missed the point, I meant he should have played in the other 2 pre-season games. You are right about that one TD ending series, that was enough.

Yep the Viking didn't attempt to resign him. The Panthers are maybe, well the Pats too, teams that even have room for AT. If that type of guy is your best offensive weapon, no wonder they barely won 2.

Bills got Brady at OC too. I doubt he is traded for anything minus another disappointing player swap. His agent was able to scan the league and gauge his value, he remained a panther..... I was once a believer, but facts are he's had 3 full seasons and 4 off-seasons.....sure its been chaos with the staff. Still this team needed WR help during those 3 years and many good-great coaches were not able to tap into TMJ. I've said it before the one group this staff knows best is WR. Crazy as it is, I think Samuel is the #1 for the bills until Coleman can take over. His weak ST is what kills his value. Only those who are no legit 1s and 2s can get by with not having ST skills.

Most of the reports Ive seen about him are shocked he made it this far. The theme is he's just not NFL material, I believe he was on PS the whole last season. Harbs isn't willing to do that this time.

serious yes.

panther employee sent by Tepper - "Hey Frank young's got terrible mechanics and footwork, any chance you could improve that??' Frank- "Nope, not touching that until next year." // / / Employee- "?????????????? ".........."Im sorry did I hear you right, you're not going to improve his issu" jumps in Frank- "Til next year." Employees leaves in ultra confusion and tells tepper the comment. Tepper- "I got to fire this clueless joker and the person who hired him in the first place"

Mike White was just cut and he's much better. I agree he looked totally different and comfy. Who knows he already got the off-season in this system and you need a PS QB. I'd wait to see if better QBs are released, like White. Lance and Wilson could be cut among other "names". But any new QB would need to learn the system, but PS QBing is more about knowing or showing the current opponents' offense. It was one of the biggest improvements Ive seen in PS, those first two games were some of the worst QB play Ive seen since teblows. That 3rd game he was in control and pushing the ball like a real QB.

I think, just like Bryce pointing out he is struggling and struggling and struggling. It is too early to judge, but he's struggling and has for 98% of the off-season.

That's part of my questioning, cause this partly feels like lowering Shaqs influence on the team/D. Cause next year it would Josey still calling with Wallace. Morgan did mention he wanted a sideline-sideline running LB and Shaq has lost a step or two. Shaq said to the public he wanted to play 4 more years. This could be his swan song here.

What 16 players caught a pass that game. Honestly was XL the only WR without a rec?? One hit him in the hands.... He's a wait til 2025 player..

I think there's a decent chance that panthers keep 7 WRs as well. (like a 30% chance) QB-2 RB- 3(brooks on pup) WR- ?...(7...7 is the magic number) TE- 4(could be 3) OL- 9(8-10 here too) 0- 18+7= 25 D- 25 ST-3 roster 53

Honestly one of the better #5 WR for the Panthers was Brandon zylstra. He could play all 3 WRs spots and was a good STer. He was a gunner if I member right and those are some of the better players play. Franklin was a good gunner and he's on IR. You have to think Zylstra for those last 2 WR spots. I've done too many rosters and learned about STs the hard way.

In past years those 5&6 WRs nearly must have ST skills, which hurts TMJ. Honestly that was what ended Goat rices career, he didn't play ST and how could you make him at that stage? Deal was he still could play, just the numbers for ST forced him to make the move. I thought Ive seen Coker on KOs, but I could be mistaken. STs is dirty and tough for WRs. You still have what 46 active on GameDay.