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Yeah no team has ever been upset with having two productive young QBs. Especially at the value they are currently holding... and if Darnold struggles we would be very thankful we would already have another option.

There is a very good chance we trade next year’s second and a couple late picks for Darnold because we doubted the QB we wanted would be there at 8. Go ahead and lock up our backup plan before the draft so A) teams are less tempted to jump us and draft a QB B) we won’t have to trade the farm to jump up and grab a QB we like C) we won’t have to worry about getting into a bidding war for Darnold with desperate teams who couldn’t land a QB in the draft after it’s over This does not mean we are set and don’t draft a guy that falls to us. Those three picks wouldn’t be wasted. Darnold would have an advantage to start the season since he has been in the league 3 years. If our rookie is good we can ease him in and trade Darnold next year if we pick up his 5th year.

Exactly. If we used those picks to move up to 5 or 6 and picked Fields no one would blink. This way we also have a young backup with potential no matter who wins the starting spot. Also if Darnold turns out to be great like people on her are suggesting then we can absolutely get a return by trading one of the two.

Newsome is going to be a very good NFL CB IMO. I could see him and Horne being better than Surtain (who should be solid).

They can claim they see whatever they want, but statistically speaking no QB has a better rating when throwing past their first read than Fields. There is no such thing as a slam dunk and our staff may feel no draft prospect is worth 3 first round picks (and I agree).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/pff-grade-counters-narrative-justin-fields-one-read-quarterback%3famp He is actually the top quarterback in this draft at going beyond his first read. There is definitely that narrative going around, but it is proven to be a false one. https://www.google.com/amp/s/saturdaytradition.com/ohio-state-football/dan-orlovsky-shreds-critics-who-say-justin-fields-cant-get-off-first-read/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatoday.com/2021/02/nfl-draft-justin-fields-one-read-quarterback-report/amp

Teddy is your guy then. What issues are scaring you about Fields?

It all depends on who is available and how they value the remaining picks. What if we are not high on Slater or Sewell vs the rest of the class and the one we like is gone by 8. Trading down makes a ton of sense in this scenario.

Waddle/Smith if no one will trade, but someone will want Mac Jones.

No linebacker is getting past me in the first!

I get Darnold has talent and was in a terrible situation with the Jets. However, his turnover issues weren’t something that just started happening in New York. https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/nfl-draft-sam-darnold-knows-his-turnover-issues-in-college-are-a-concern/amp/ 27 starts with 22 interceptions and 21 fumbles. 43 turnovers in 27 starts is Winston bad... This wasn’t against SEC defenses either, he was in the defenseless PAC 12. I love the optimism and understand he is still very young. However going all in on a QB who has shown on both levels TOs are a big issue is extremely risky. If Lance is there, I understand passing on him because he appears to be a project himself. However if a top QB we are high on falls to us I hope we consider taking them. I’ll cheer for whoever we get, and I would love Sewell if that’s the pick, but Darnold went from 3 over all to being traded for a future second and late round picks for a reason... I’m just a fan of doubling down to increase our odds of getting our franchise QB now vs having a constant revolving door at the position.

Sewell and Toney would make our offense great! (IF Darnold works out, but that’s a different conversation) Sewell, Elf, Paradis, Miller, Moton blocking for Sammy D and CMC with Arnold, Toney, Deej Moore, and Anderson catching calls would be very fun to watch!

FS and maybe another CB and this defense should be solid. Now we need a LT and slot WR on offense.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/04/19/panthers-d-j-moore-robby-anderson-uncatchable-end-zone-targets/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/pantherswire.usatoday.com/2020/12/09/panthers-d-j-moore-catch-rate-deep/amp/

The big issue with the Cooper argument is he had Dak all of 2019 and nearly a third of the games in 2020. Dalton was his low point which would have been Moore’s best QB yet. McLaurin is a much better argument. It’s hard to find WRs excelling with bad QB play which is why Moore is underrated. We showed you the link where he had some of the most uncatchable passes. On top of that we were constantly watching plays last year of him being wide open and Teddy missing him (yes I know this happens to all WRs, but when your top QB is known for check downs it’s an issue).

I think we are rolling with Arnold and Thomas at TE. The depth might have to be some FAs and undrafted rookies. LT is a must and this draft is loaded with them. Slot WR is getting overlooked by us I think. I would not be surprised if we draft one of the WRs like Smith in the first and a LT in the second due to the depth in this draft.

Ah yes you are struggling to show Moore is overrated so you try to say Dalton is better than former NFL MVP Cam. Brilliant!

Imagine if this happens and we some how land Parsons in the 2nd. Sewell and Parsons would be an insane haul in the first 2 rounds. There is no way he makes it to 39, but a man can dream....

So you have no data/stats to backup your argument. That usually means one thing...

Carolina!

I think Sewell may be the one player that no one will have any issues with if he is selected.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/04/19/panthers-d-j-moore-robby-anderson-uncatchable-end-zone-targets/?fbclid=IwAR2o36nLpJDVklIAuWQ8HmnFp2sg-GS8ILGpqQfYbQgVqgnhBl5nypg7pH0 This shows you how bad it was for Moore and he still produced. He had over 6 more yards per attempt than McL who has Alex Smith for several games which was way better than what Moore was working with. You find anyone else?

Would love it if we landed Sewell!

The Jets went 7-9 with him in 2019. We clearly have a better coach/roster than that. It will be bad if Darnold turns out to be good enough to keep us in the middle of the next draft, but not bad enough to get us a top pick. With the capital if costs to trade up for QBs if one you love falls to you they should always be considered until you have your franchise QB.