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Agreed. I just don’t see many concerned about his arm strength. His height/frame, sure.

Below-average arm strength and average release quickness Arm strength limitations Lacks elite arm strength. You may think that, but most scouts/draft experts thought arm strength was Burrow’s biggest weakness. Most of the ones I’m reading on Young are calling his arm strength average or adequate. You could argue scouts/draft experts are claiming Young’s arm is slightly stronger than Burrow’s.

You’re just use to seeing a guy like Cam. Baker had what 1 or 2 inches and 10 pounds on him? Seeing that from the distance these pictures were taken is impressive. People are just hyper focused on it…

I love seeing vets like Smith and Luke helping in practice. It’s is nice to see how much Smith has matured since playing.

Yeah you can go back and read the draft profiles. Below average arm strength is usually listed as a weakness. Also about Manning The number one thing scouting reports got wrong on Manning was that he had a limited upside. This was a knock on him as he didn’t have the arm a player like Leaf had coming out of college and was a pure pocket passer. While there was truth to his limited upside physically he had unlimited potential overall. As he grew as a pro he understood the game even more which helped him consistently make the correct reads in the passing game or make changes at the line of scrimmage. These two skills were things that ended up making him an all-time great.

He can make any throw that Burrow can. Is that fair?

I hope people are actually checking some of this data being provided. https://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties-player.html Penalties by OL Icky had 11 which was towards the top but not 13 (which was the top). For context he had one more than Tunsil who is considered a solid LT. Only 4 of those were holding (4 false starts and 4 "other"). Icky is fine. SI gave us an A for drafting him in a post season review Ekwonu struggled a bit out of the gates, but that was expected. Offensive linemen usually have the toughest transition to the NFL and it didn't help that he had to go up against Myles Garrett in Week 1. He improved as the season went on, dominating in the run game and evolving as a pass protector. Ekwonu wasn't perfect, but he had about as good of a year as you would have hoped for him to have.

He doesn't have an elite arm, I agree. He is more on par with Joe Burrow, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady. These players offset the average NFL arms with elite accuracy and anticipation. I like to think of Young's style/skillset as a more elusive mini Burrow. Most people have Burrow as the 2nd tier QB behind only Mahomes so I will be more than happy with this ceiling/potential as any other prospect.

If Smith takes Mingo under his wings... Look out!

We have no idea how good some of these teams are going to be plus we are installing a new offense and defense. I expect us to be competitive and would be thrilled with a winning record but there may be some learning curves this year.

You can not allow a sack but still allow pressures or commit penalties while pass protecting. People (or the single person/troll) claiming he will cost us a quarter of our schedule in losses because his pass protection is so bad are clearly full of poo. He is a capable pass protector who was raw as a rookie but has already shown great improvement. As the article stated it appears we have our franchise LT.

Agreed. He was raw as a pass protector, but clearly progressed well under Campen. We definitely drafted the right LT last year.

https://theathletic.com/3976961/2022/12/07/panthers-ikem-ekwonu-rookie-left-tackle/?amp=1

Was he playing CB? You are going into full negative mode because we didn’t draft your guy. Get over it.

Oh poo I missed that. Yeah they could definitely be a problem if Ridder shows anything.

If he struggled and any of the other rookies look good this place will be a mad house. The thing is, most rookies struggle…

Atlanta has some great skill players, but how are they in the trenches? The OL and run defense was pretty bad last year. They do have the 2nd best coaching staff IMO outside of us.

As long as he puts in the time like Mahomes he should be great. I know Young will put in the time. You are right though he would get drafted over Young due to size and arm strength.

I don’t understand why people think our roster is worse than Tampa and Atlanta’s outside if the QB? We split with these teams last year with terrible QB play and half of a coaching staff. I think we definitely got better as well. Brown, Burns, Horn, Chinn, and Shaq are as good of pieces as any defense in the division. Our OL is probably the best, Sanders is probably better than Tampa or NO’s RBs (with Kamara suspended), our WRs are pretty unproven outside of Thielen/Chark so we are probably last there but Hurst is mid-tier for TE (below ATL obviously).

Caleb Williams is great and probably goes above Young in this draft if he was eligible. Lincoln Riley does make a lot of QBs look better than they do in the Pros with Baker and Kyler. Personally I like Bryce’s demeanor a lot. I couldn’t imagine him putting “fug UGA” on his knuckles and then losing to them. To me Caleb wants to have more fun playing the game similar to Cam while Young just wants to win and execute similar to a Manning/Brees. Both ways can be affective though.

True. Plus Wilks was coaching for a job. There is no way he was going to tank after the crap that happened to him in ARZ.

I don’t think anyone is expecting Burrow. If he catches on quickly the hope is we make the playoffs in a weak NFC. Nothing too crazy IMO.

Yeah we didn’t draft the player you preferred. We drafted the played that 90% of scouts and analysts had as the top QB in the draft. We drafted the QB that the Texans actually wanted over Stroud. You keep looking for some elite physical trait. Physically Young is capable of playing QB in the NFL, but you want find anything elite just like Brady, Burrow, Manning, Brees, and Wilson. These QBs excel at playing the position with poise, accuracy, and elite processing. So you keep hoping for a Jeff George arm while most of us are wanting a Manning brain.