ForJimmy

great game!

If it was sincere then there is about to be a lot of banning from you right?

He wasn't worth the trade up. I never said he was. I think people see this value and are wanting an instant star. That was our GM being a dumb ass. That doesn't mean he can't become a solid QB for us.

Everyone is saying his arm is average. People saying he can't throw a deep ball and calling him a noodle arm are the ones that people who call his arm average are arguing with. An average QB can throw a deep ball in the NFL.

I'm so confused? Did you just make a giant troll thread for people looking at some potential in our starting QB?? I mean the guy who owns this site stated that Bryce Young is going to be good and made a thread on it, but we aren't allowed to talk about any signs of him looking good? No one is arguing that the state of the Panthers is terrible right now, just that Young could be a solid QB for us. To quote @Zod If you have watched a lot of football, it isn't hard to see that Bryce is a NFL caliber starting QB

In order for you (well me) to really try to evaluate Young this year I had to accept 2 things. One we shouldn't have traded what we traded to draft him, and two Stroud was the better choice. Now all of that is a sunk cost and water under the bridge and I am looking at Young progressing to see if he can become our QB of the future, which to me he is showing some signs of life and progression. If we can walk away from this with Young developing into our franchise QB it would be a win at this point.

17:50 looks like that 20 yard out route people were wanting to see Young throw. The PA kept his OGs upright and he delivered right on the money.

I mean we can argue about his arm or actually watch the video where he attempts a long pass and see what happens. Young is also getting drilled in most of the plays. His durability doesn't appear to be an issue like many thought before the draft. *knock on wood*

So 14:50 is where he attempts he deep pass to Chark to those who are interested. He has to rush it because he OG is worthless and gets hit at the end of his motion. However it was an overthrow by about 4-5 yards. If he could have held it for one more split second it would have been nice. This tells me he is capable of hitting deep throws, he needs a decent interior OL to do it regularly, but the arm talent to get the ball there was fine just rushed it causing an overthrow.

I'm ok with Teddy for a rookie through the first 5 games, but he and our offense needs to progress past it. Let's hope Brown can get our whole offense more aggressive and Young some looks down the field for him to take.

To your point https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/what-will-the-panthers-offense-look-like-under-thomas-brown "I have a ton of respect for Sean McVay," said Brown. "He's one of the best and brightest minds I've ever been a part of but we are different. How we see the game and activate the game will be different, but I've definitely learned about how you attack defenses using formation variation, formation marriage, and motion adjustments so that'll continue to be a part of what we do moving forward.

That only makes me feel better. He can draw up some of his plays for them during the bye week. The whole zone blocking OL is from the McVay tree though, which is something Brown would probably imitate.

We definitely need an energy boost. Reich and Young are a bad pairing for that. If Brown can fire up Young and get our offense playing inspired football I’ll be intrigued.

Brown apparently created the whole system with Reich.

This is good news. Several feel like Reich preferred Carr or Stroud, so now we have an OC calling his plays with the QB he wanted.

Icky did great at pass blocking but bad at run blocking?? What is going on here?!

OK this is a little bit comical as well... So people are critiquing Young's passing chart and rightfully so but they can't look at other QB's charts for comparison? He needs to connect on some big passes, I will say on his one deep attempt he was hit and couldn't throw a good pass due to it, so OL is absolutely part of the issue. On the counter Howell might have a worse OL and he manages to connect on several of those deep passes (he also has a cannon for an arm which helps). We need to continue to attempt 2 plus deep ones a game and hopefully connect on several. I think everyone agrees on that.

I think the point is a couple deep shots a game (especially if they are close) makes the defense have to respect it, because if they don't that's a TD. It's something we can incorporate with Young. We need a running game and a nice PA bootleg deep to Chark would be nice since our guards are struggling in pass protection.

That makes waaaaay more sense if true. Whenever I watch him play he is running for his life like he did his last year in college. So "pocket time" is kind of a dumb measurement which can look better if your QB is more mobile.

True. You have to keep the defense honest.

Actually not at all. It’s weird that he has MORE pocket time and way more sacks. To be clear I like Howell and was for us drafting him. Those stats were just odd to me.

According to the data Howell has more pocket time on average though. That’s what’s weird?