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The last few games (heck, most of the season) really show how much work we’ve done improving the O-Line #SignBozeman

It’s fantastic to see Game Ball giveaways again. One thing I super appreciated being a thing during the Cam era. Let’s hope it continues

Recognizing that we have to make a LOT of assumptions that need to happen for this question to be reasonable: would Sam be a reasonable nominee for the NFL Comeback Player of the Year?

Ooooh, one thing of interest to most Huddlers is that streaming (no matter who is doing it) tends to be at bit behind real-time broadcasts. So for those of you who like to actively participate in each week's Game thread, be prepared to find out results of plays in the online chat/Twitter before you actually see the play on the stream.

Confirmed the NFL won't be happy with bars airing YouTube games: The new deal has split the two out, with YouTube currently only having access to the $2 billion residential rights, with the NFL looking for a partner to take on the $200 million-per-year commercial rights

Yup, tons of smaller municipalities are starting their own ISPs for this exact reason. Construction costs are crazy for just a few hundred feet.

For now. As we've talked about over multiple months in (Nerdvana?) that other streaming thread, there are discussions in play for the content providers (Disney, Netflix, Paramount+ etc....) teaming up to offer a single streaming package of all their channels together. Rumored initial price point is $100/month (depending on the participants, of course). This would be separate from your Internet connectivity bill. So you may still be looking at $150-$200/month for your new "cable package". *shrug* Happy to continue the non-NFL-related streaming convo over in that other thread so as not to hijack the topic here.

Still no word on how the new plan will work for commercial establishments. There currently is a limit of three concurrent devices on YouTube streaming accounts, which will likely continue. While Amazon Prime allows for the Thurs games to be viewed in bars, there has not been an announcement for YouTube yet. DirecTV has been negotiating separately to maintain the restaurant/bar piece.

This is key: It's that YouTube Primetime Channels that opens it up to everyone, not just YouTube TV subscribers

We should know more later today (if rumor mills are accurate). One of two scenarios will be in play: 1) Google would make Sunday Ticket available in the Youtube TV plan, but would charge a premium for the out-of-market games (just like DirecTV does), which could be in the $300/season range. YouTube TV currently costs $65/month for the base package. 2) Google could offer Sunday Ticket as a subscription via YouTube =-=- If #2 is in play, then there's no reason to offer #1 *unless* there's a season discount for YouTube TV subscribers vs non-subscribers #1 would be of most benefit to expand the YoutubeTV customer base, but at the risk of annoying potential subscribers who just want to watch their team #2 would offer the widest possible option for subscribers, and therefore more money for the NFL

Looks like an announcement is coming soon leading the rumor mill is YouTube.

I was going to reply, "i listen to YouTube/YouTube Music via my phone in the car all the time, what are you talking about". Until I remembered that I'm not plugging into a USB port, but using an audio aux input instead. Benefits of driving an older vehicle, I guess.

Again, don't blame the software - they're just doing what the streaming contracts allow. Some streaming services request that mirroring not be allowed primarily for copyright reasons. A bad example: streaming from a personal phone subscription to a TV displayed in a public performance space like a bar. (and because there's no way to differentiate use cases, all mirroring has to be disabled)

Old habits die hard. Its what we do

Ha. but seriously, CBS coverage showed a bunch of steeler fans cheering, waving towels. Then a bunch of panthers fans were with them screaming and arm waving too. ugh.

Why were the panthers fans cheering/noisy before the 3 and 8 snap?

I didn’t have the cbs commentary of “darnold is having a terrific start to this game” on my 2022 Panthers bingo card.

The CBS announcing is horrible thus far. I expect better from Greg Gumbel

Somehow, a poop response is both appropriate and inappropriate for the first post

Have said for years that the number one product Amazon sells is "convenience". They make it easy to purchase stuff and have it delivered relatively quickly. They make it easy to spin up web services for various businesses etc. Amazon will make it easy to access, no matter what device you have. YouTube should be the same, theoretically, but there's some backlash against those darn interstitial commercials and Google user tracking. Sure, Amazon has some similar qualities, but consumers tend to be more "trusting" of Amazon with their data vs Google. Source: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190304005148/en/Consumers-Trust-Amazon-Is-Using-Their-Data-Responsibly-Beating-Out-Apple-Google-Banks-According-to-New-SmarterHQ-Survey (disclaimer: there are newer surveys that place google and amazon equally on the trust scale. Yes, I'm ignoring those studies)

This isn’t an issue with the cable company. This is related to the contract limitations that the broadcasters have with the cable,providers. yes, it stinks to have to log out of one app to switch to another, but it’s different backend services controlling streaming access (ABC vs NBC) and those two parties don’t want to communicate with each other. Eventually they will and we will be back to purchasing “streaming channel packages” similar to cable packages of yesteryear.

Assuming you are a cord cutter. If you have an antenna, you should be getting CBS for free if this isn’t the case, then why are you paying for a local broadcast channel?

Thinking about it more -- Sunday Ticket isn't targeted to local fans of a local team. Those viewers have free over-the-air options to watch the games already. Sunday Ticket is for those who live outside the local viewing area of their favorite team OR want a way to watch All The Games, regardless of whose playing. Paying $300 for a season of watching the Panthers play may seem like overkill - but for out-of-towners, it's dollar-cost-averaging a reasonable fee per game for a season. Of course, you might lose some $ if the Panthers get more national coverage or the local stations select to air the Panthers in your market on a given week, but at least you have options.

Direcztv is already out of the consumer conversation, although they may still try to negotiate a continuation for the sports bar business. I’d like a team-by-team subscription rather than pay for individual games or picking the whole package. if the only option is buying the whole package, it’s still cheaper to view/eat/drink at home than it is going to a sports bar and eating/drinking there. But if the choice is between YouTube and Amazon Prime….. I think more people would would rather go through Amazon than through Google.

With just 23 days left in the current DirecTV Sunday Ticket contract, Apple has pulled out of the negotiations, leaving just Amazon and Google in the race word is that Apple wanted to sell individual games or teams, while the NFL wanted to make it an entire package. The NFL also wants to keep a certain price point to appease CBS and FOX from potentially losing viewers. as for Disney, while it could have been used to power Disney+ or ESPN subscriptions, the deal was likely too costly for a company currently looking to cut costs,