PootieNunu

He would have to earn the right to play. He could not beat out Walker or Teddy, so that will never happen here. Write him off.

Not at all, our biggest need is QB, so every thread should be a QB driven thread. We can not let these idiots go on thinking that grabbing a TE or LB at pick 8 is acceptable.

Dude is a third stringer behind Teddy and Walker. At this point he is not even backup quality. His film is the same as it was, the reason he was not drafted until late although still higher than he should have been.

Cant be much worse than Teddy but definitely not the answer. When you have one of the worst starting QBs in the league a lot of crazy poo will be said. I think that is a MoRon Rivera troll you are replying too though, sounds like him.

The average QB last season tossed 24 TDs. I am tired of hearing that Teddy is average, Herbert was a rookie with a much worse o-line and he tossed 31 tds. Teddy is not starting QB material, I wish people would stop saying he is an average starting QB. Teddy is trash and should only be a backup used in spots. An example of an average starting QB last season is Phillip Rivers. Teddy is nowhere near that range.

His arms are the same length as Gross I think, but I agree he was the anomaly.

Either a QB makes it to our pick our we go up and get one dependent on the feeling of the draft. If for some dumb reason we dont get a QB, take a LT. When I say a QB I don't mean Jones or Trask, neither are first round talents.

So if we have a pre-concussion Luke we still have a shot at the playoffs with Kyle Allen or Teddy?

Teddy is not an average QB that is the problem, he is below average. An average QB is throwing anywhere from 20-30 TDs in our offense. Teddy is in the trash part of the QB hierarchy well below average. Trubisky threw 17 tds with a much less talented offense and only played in 11 games. Wentz tossed 16 in 12 games and got benched. Lets not pretend Teddy is anything other than abysmal. Edit: Oh and Dilfer has thrown for 21td's twice in the late 90s.

Honestly I would not give Teddy 1 more minute to prove himself, much less a season.

Luke was amazing a 7x all pro, but the point stands. Even if Luke never gets that concussion we still don't make the playoffs with what we have been fielding at QB.

That's what happens when Hurney is running most of those drafts. I hope our new regime is not dumb enough to select Parsons at 8. It was fun to cheer for the guys we drafted but we never had any sustained success. Double trouble was fun until we ran into the playoffs and Jake decided to throw 37 int against the Cardinals and we watched them go to the super bowl. Luke was great until Cam fell apart and we have not seen the playoffs since. The other LBs were ok for short periods, Beason was one of the best but he was short lived. Morgan had too many concussions. Davis was amazing once he finally got over the injuries. Edit: Thompson has been so meh, I forgot to add him.

And 3 have been RBs. Since 2000 8 1st round picks on LBs and RBs. People were in here last year salivating over Isiah Simmons, thankfully we passed on him and got Chinn instead at a cheaper pick. We do not need an off-ball LB with character issues at pick #8 I don't care how fast he runs.

The new picture to believe in looks way too much like jimmy clausen.

Our team was good enough for an average to below average qb to put up at least 25 passing TDs. Instead we picked the safest option out there (similar to Mac Jones) and got what we deserved. You dont win in this league by never taking chances and dumping off the 2 yard flat route over and over.

So it took one of your personal heroes to tell you he fuging sucks? Just watch the tape from last season, you don't need Luke to tell you. Pull the wool from over your eyes bro. QBs dont win much in this league throwing 15 fuging touchdowns for a season. That is something you do over a 6-7 game stretch.

I dont want a WR or TE early in the draft anyway. The problem with decent OL is how decent are they? Atlanta went that same route and got 2 decent OL in the 1st round and they both turned out to be not so decent, their line was worse than ours last year. If we cant get a QB and nobody blows us away with a trade offer, we have to take Slater or whoever we think is the best OT.

What would a team be willing to give up for one of those guys though? I dont want to get fleeced in a trade because "more players". You are talking about #2 guys and secondary positions.

The price may drop for his services via trade, but is it worth it? I guess if we miss out on a QB in the draft Tepper will remain fixated on Watson, unless he is behind bars. I hope he would wait until the truth comes out to try to make any kinds of moves. Watson should have never signed that contract extension with a racist pos owner running the show. He should have kept his head down played on the tag and hit FA when he could.

Lets say the 4 QBs are gone, also sewell, surtain, and chase. What player is someone giving us a haul to get to #8 to get? #5qb? #2wr? #2 cb? A offball linebacker? a TE? I just don't see us accumulating many picks for one of those players. I don't want to trade back to 12-15 and only pick up a extra 2nd or 3rd in the process. Just take whoever the best left is if we don't trade up and kick ourselves for ever entertaining the idea of signing Teddy.

If we get our qb at 8 and are thinking about trading up for another player, it better be an OL that is worth a damn. We can get a late round te if we want one from the draft.

If we miss out on a QB I really don't care what we do with the pick. Take bpa, trade back, whatever. I doubt many teams will be looking to trade to 8 if all the qbs are gone. We can want to trade back all we want, but someone has to want to trade up.

So you sit tight and grab a 3rd round talent at 8?

With 12 women now coming out accusing him, even if he is innocent I would wait until everything is cleared before even thinking about trading for him. Lets get the best we can out of the draft,, Fields or Lance.