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Easy thing to say because had he made adjustments, it’s impossible to know if we would’ve won or still lost. But it’s pretty clear from the lack of adjustments, he sure didn’t help and his well known stubbornness cost him at the very least a better chance. I mean from the comments of that Broncos defense...hopefully that’s pretty obvious.

Any fan that watched the play calling the entire 2015 knows this players fought their hardest, tooth and nail to overcome miserable play calling, schemes and compensate for zero adjustments. It was always horrid to see plays beginning and then gratifying to see our team come through. Positive results were often a result of busted plays, overachieving players, and our players became elite at adapting (gee wonder why). Feel free to go back and watch. No, the coaching didn’t lose any games for the team but it didn’t do anything to help and already elite team either.

If he sucks, fire everyone.

I body cares about them because people like consistency. People start knowing their name when it’s used season after season for a long time. Not 1-2 years. Also 1k was the old standard some of you are showing your age. Doesn’t mean as much now days. Nevertheless, I don’t understand how they went from 26th to 8th 2019,2020...and now losing Samuel brings them to 20th? And at the end it says they have the pieces to be one of the better units...is 20th one of the better units? The rank does not match the prediction. I like PFF for a lot of things, usually grades after the fact. These draft rankings a day later and positional rankings before the season even starts they do is trash.

lol only $100? Why not $100,000? Doesn’t sound like faith to me! Just a forewarning - the ‘fire everyone!’ threads after our first loss, are usually bans.

I think the idea was saving his entire contract and eating money this year. Course, I don’t know what the savings/guaranteed money was but he still had two years left. While he did well in 2019, 2020 was pretty bad. Maybe Rhule/Snow didn’t see him as a fit for what they wanted to do and wanted to save as much as possible on his 3 year deal. I don’t think we lost much by cutting him, but it is a legitimate question as to who will be replacing him. But the bar isn’t that high from his performance last year so and he is still a FA.

Yea I used the wrong wording. I meant restructure. And isn’t have a problem with the extension at the time either. Though if we used hindsight in this scenario, we would’ve been better off not never resigning him. We got one good year after his massive contract for 80 million or whatever. But again I understand resigning him at the time, though I think his decline was evident after his peak in 2015, and 80 million was way way too much when you consider what company he was in ranking salaries over that contract. I believe he was even slated to be the top paid DT in the NFL for 1 or 2 of those years. Had we never signed him we would’ve been better off.

Not only that but wasn’t it coming off a super bowl team/year? He fit very well with our defense and scheme. Hindsight isn’t 20/20 when the huddle breaks down due to these idiot moves (the Armanti edwards/Chandler Bell/Brown/Armini ‘experiments’, extending Short, signing Kalil, drafting Little, signing Jake, letting peppers walk for nothing, having the two highest paid HBs on the same team... lol....etc etc) the moment it happens. Armchair GMs should never be able to predict dumb moves like the huddle has. Not saying this place is right or wrong all the time, just scary to watch your favorite team make blatant, dumbass moves.

But how many were worth actually keeping around? Norman? Bradberry? Norwell? Perhaps they went on to be overpaid. But then again, overpaid or not, you have to consider where did their money actually go? To players like M Kalil....Shaq took BBs...Gano...fuging Short. Would you rather overpay a young draft pick or sign M Kalil? I think we all know where more money was wasted, overpaid or not. Not to mention being cap strapped later on when Gettle took over after Hurney went full on idiot in 2010 which was slightly a result of JR being a dumbass ‘businessman’ putting his money first. Just bad management overall. Bad moves everywhere, constantly. Success often came as a result of luck. But this is what happens when you have Hurney and then fuging rehire him as ‘interim’ for 4 years. This is what happens when you reward old players like Olsen and Kalil with farewell contracts instead of moving on. This is what happens when you are too stubborn to move on from vets and progress (Rivera mindset). You end up paying the wrong, old players and never have any talent to come in and take their place. Build through the draft my ass, always made me laugh when FO/fans said this. We paid aging plays and let draft picks go. It’s the exact blueprint for having a good season every 3-4 years, then resetting, as the Panthers have had since inception. It’s the recipe of mediocrity and the anti perennial winner.

It’s funny how this fanbase has no self awareness, always nagging on the Jets and jags...lol but but the Panther lost 2 Super Bowls!! And the Jets lost two conference games...does one game REALLY matter with no SB wins? Not really. Panthers can only look deep into the bottom of the barrel for any relief. Going into my 26th year as a fan just hoping for two winning seasons in a row.

You left the Jets for the Panthers? Lol

Ehhh...the Panthers defense ranked at the top of the bottom third of the NFL, with pass defense average and running defense really fuging bad. In fact other than WRs, any unit that had a Panther’s uniform on ranked in the bottom of the league as well. Whether Terrance becomes the best rookie ever wouldn’t really matter as it’s the strongest position on the team. I’m not going all doomsday, I get the reasons why, but some of you are way too homer about things. The entire team as a whole will need a huge improvement to contend. I expect an average season to be happy, anything more will be a welcome surprise. Rhule will need more than 1 year to build a winning team, as ‘doomsday’ as that may sound to some.

Yes it is very normal. Nothing to see here, unfortunately.

No body cares about TMZ drama bullshit. Rodgers, Brady, both Mannings, Brees, Jackson, Allen, Herbert, Mahomes are all pretty damn boring. Some of you might be too young to know, but ALL of the older ones were vanilla too at age 23. No reason to be talking poo if you haven’t done poo or ever really. Cam was boring as hell aside from his dumbass remarks and goofy, attention hoarding clothing. No one cares the GOAT talks more poo than a dude who just grew hair on his nuts.

WG needs to stfu and focus on how cold SD likes his Gatorade

That was cringy on air or not...does anyone age 30+ talk like that? Jesus

that song is straight trash, should’ve went with creepy JR

I’ll never forget Norwell sitting on the bench and not even given a chance until injury. Then went on to be the top paid guard in the NFL lol...that’s a serious issue IMO. Shouldn’t take a decade. But hey, least he’s owning up to it. That, adjustments and time management were his biggest issues. If he is willing to learn and do better he could be a great coach.

Sand would be most entertaining. Few patches of quick sand here and there would turn up the excitement as well.

My buddy is a die hard 49ers fan and he knew as soon as the trade happened it was Lance. I guess it makes sense, you make that kind of trade for the biggest ceiling, not who is going to look/come in better.

As I said besides shitty weapons and shitty qb play, yes, stats, history and ranks compared to the rest of the NFL say otherwise.

TB was checking down under a much worse oline and a defense who always made him play catch up without a HB to make a difference. No doubt TB sucks, no one is disputing that. But Cam was simply throwing balls in the dirt with great protection, decent HB play, whether his shitty weapons were finally open or he was checking down or not. And a defense/ST that rarely put him behind. Difference is Cam has way more potential than TB if he can get over his injury, no one is disputing that either. In fact Cam has so much potential, you’ll see it even if his weapons suck. 2015 obviously.

Lol no, he wasn’t. Other than weapons Cam was given a playoff caliber team and coaching easy. One of the best olines in the NFL, too 10 defense 7th in points allowed...best special teams in the NFL. TB preformed better with better weapons sure (aside from RB), but also with a god awful team all around and a back up RB compared to Cam and a new college coach. Yea, no, sorry. As much as you patriot cam fans don’t want to admit it, cam was just as much of a problem in NE as his shitty receivers.

A good post, unfortunately our oline isn’t much to post about. Paradis admitted late last year his injury is still hindering him. Big mean don’t heal - especially at his age. Fact is the line is looking pretty bad. Panthers have neglected it for so long. Well maybe not neglect, but have made horrible moves there. That’s probably worse. As important as the line is, I see it still a couple years away from being playoff caliber. Given the top teams to make the playoffs every year also so happen to have the top olines...it’s not looking good. My main issue with the line last year was consistency. Easily the worst 3/4 quarter oline in the NFL. Except the Jets. The oline can be average but will have to be average for an entire game.

Objectively would technically mean actually seeing results. That’s why it’s speculation. What quantifiable results from playing in the NFL do you have to say they knocked the draft out of the park? None. It really isn’t that complicated. Please don’t be the one making ‘Fire everyone!’ threads during the season when in fact the draft may not turn out to be the best of all time ever.