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Define strong correlation - what was the coefficient? Show the data. I would ask which term was considered the Input and which the Output? Did lack of success cause the turnover or did lack of success result after the turnover? How about turnover vs year 2? 3? 4? Which year was the strongest correlation? What other factors were included in the study? Let's see the details. Blanket, vague "result" without details holds no weight my friend.

I think this thread makes it clear that receivers 5-12 in this draft are extremely unclear and will be drafted between picks 33 and 50. I'm hoping some crazy, QB needy team wants to give us extra 2nd and/or 3rd round picks to move up and let us drop 8-12 spots. We still get one of these guys, use pick 39, and get much more value in rounds 2 & 3. Instead of one of these guys and an Edge/LB/CB we get that AND Ja'Tavion Sanders.....I mean....

100% agree

I agree but you would reasonably expect the opposite to be true - those 2 with only 1 rookie season being seen with optimism and TMJ being seen as a known bust....but not the case. Many other examples as well from past years.

I never remember who exactly says what on here, but it amazes me how some guys on the roster get MASSIVE passes for their poor play, sighting an incredible amount of unfounded excuses. Yet other guys y'all crucify when there is clear evidence that they may have not been the cause. How does TMJ get a pass when buys like Bryce/Mingo don't? I'm not directing this at any 1 person, not the creator either. Trying to see optimism is fine of course - I hope you are right - just the hypocrisy is amazing in some people.

Oh gotcha - I thought he had 2 years left on his deal...makes sense. Depending on how Mingo and the draft goes probably gonna get a good shot at a resign also though.

I am fairly confused on the "Johnson in his last years comment" in the initial post....he should have a good 3-5 more years left most of which should still be fairly peak. But I also am fine with WR being top priority. Personally I think our current priorities should be CB, WR, C, OT, DE, LB - the crazy thing there though is I think C, OT, DE, and LB are all about even so you can mix them around however you want. CB and WR are very thin talent wise for us by far over the other positions considering injury history/age. I would be happy if our 2nd round picks included a small trade back and picking up WR and CB at this point....but again I'm not mad at BPA for those other 4 positions if a diamond is available.

You know punts are still a thing right?

As everyone else said....it's gonna take a few seasons to be legitimately competitive. I don't think the average fan on this site gives enough credit to just how bad out O-line and WR's really were. In 3 players we just upgraded 4 positions from grades of 50-60 to 80-85. We probably brought the offense's average up from 60 to 70ish. A homerun on a WR and/or TE in the draft and we go to 75. We are gonna either see a massive improvement in Bryce's production or know for sure he is a bust and we move on.

100%

Unless a stud drops to 33 I'm hoping we trade back a little bit and pick up an extra pick or 2. Most of the WR's we see on mocks at 33 we could get at 39-45.

We still have some big negotiations to do that will open more - we can open up $14M by restructuring Moton, Thielen, Sanders, and Tuttle. All depends on the impact on next year's ability to cut them if needed.

If I was Shaq I would charge him half that bloated salary

Let's see...we keep bringing in Gamecocks and we keep losing.....and we've never drafted a Clemson player....sounds like a solid correlation

Just filling up the table

Nabors + Johnston + Palmer - their WR core on paper should be good Everett was not that great - easy to replace Corum or others in the draft is my guess This is how the NFL goes these days honestly - those contracts were bad and the guys were old/injured - I don't think it is Harbaugh as much as just typical cycle

"And with the 5th pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the Los Angeles Chargers select Brock Bowers, Georgia"....Hayden Hurst once again has no one who believes in him...

The thread title confused me - totally get it once I clicked in LOL. As a Clemson fan I fully endorse this selection in the 3rd round.

Significantly

I am usually pretty optimistic, but the reality is that last year was almost dead on Chark's career average for a season. I doubt very much he will ever come close to double his output again - he will be on his 4th team in 7 years. Pretty much know what you have there.

Hard pass

They don't have to extend him to restructure and lower the cap - just convert to signing bonus.

Trade AT - sign Renfrow - done and done

Cutting TMarsh saves $1.4M - probably gonna happen IMO since he is basically the 4th or 5th WR at this point with the draft coming up. But look at the draft flexibility this gives us now - yes we would all love to draft the next JJ or Chase with pick 33 or 39, but with Diontae and Mingo you don't feel nearly the pressure to use those 2 picks on a WR. I said before I would love to see Ja'Tavion Sanders and Chop Robinson at those 2 spots.....then 65 we go for a WR maybe - should be plenty of possibilities better than Marshall and cheaper.

I would LOVE to have Tee Higgins - but trading those 2 picks is the wrong choice. I don't see Tee on our radar any longer....we have nothing to offer without Burns.