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Even if Corral is the next Will Grier this won't be a bad decision - no matter what happens we saved picks and $$ by doing this instead of trading for Baker or Jimmy G. At a minimum he is likely an upgrade at our backup QB position. This is an absolute win regardless of Corral's future.

Not a terrible idea - depending on cost. Likely a better mentor and potentially a better starter....if cheap enough you release PJ and keep SD

Not that it matters but Pro Football Reference shows 9 sacks - wonder why it is different? Either way there is a reason he has been on 4 different teams the last 4 years and is still on the market - anyone still available right now has a reason. In his case it is an absolute heck no! I have said it since he was drafted and he has proven to be not worth it for 8 years.

Overpriced - injury prone - getting (football) old looking for longer deal - poor work ethic No thanks

I meant wouldn't - but also those guys were not traded for first round picks - they had other picks included in the deal. And I said that as well when I said package the same deal for a 2nd rounder vs 1st.

There is nowhere in my comments that even remotely says Robby is worth a first rounder. I literally said we should trade him AND a 3rd to get into the 2nd round this year.

Actually plenty of teams would like Robby - most consider his drop in production due to our QB play and offensive scheme. He would be worth Hollywood or AJ value but plenty of value considering the WR run yesterday and other WR trades. And the reason we didn't trade back (if it was due to lack of offers) was likely due to the way the draft went...the stud DLinemen were gone by 6, no one had faith in these QB's clearly, and the teams that needed the OT's were all up next and could get one for free. And we didn't want to trade out of one of the top 3 OT's so none of the later guys had good enough offers. 2nd round is a completely different ballgame and value - early 2nd rounders are worth 1/3 what our #6 was worth....it doesn't take too much to get back there. But I guarantee you Willis and Corral are gone by pick #8....no way they get past NY, HOU, and SEA considering their 1st rounds. I think our only shot is Robby & 2023 3rd rounder traded to KC or CHI - but even then I don't know that we get Howell so probably still not worth it.

You sir are most welcome! lol

So many people misrepresent this statement. This is the NFL not the NBA - the difference between pick 6 and 13 is significant, but it is nowhere near half. And 37 is still a very good pick - Jonathan Taylor, Antoine Winfield Jr, Trevon Diggs, Javonte Williams, Nick Bolton - all drafted after 37 in just the last 2 years. And don't forget just because you pick high it doesn't mean you pick the right people....ask the Jets....or Philly...or Detroit......

I would be 100% in for this - especially if we get Penning. That means we could also address our LB depth with potential upside and 37 might be Howell, Pickett, or Ridder depending on how things shake out. I don't necessarily want those QB's but Fitt may and would prevent the reach.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/

Seriously y'all go try this site - it proposes lots of trades. I'd be thrilled with this. Profootballnetwork

My hope for this year is the following in order: 1) Draft a top LT @ 6 - stick with Darnold - draft QB next year with high draft pick 2) Trade down, draft QB with 1st rd, LT with 2nd or 3rd - see who is better QB in camp - possibly draft another QB next year That being said I wouldn't be surprised if we go with option #1 and we sign one of those 2 guys out of desperation - but it is a waste of money IMO since I don't believe either is better than Darnold if we have a stud LT....and signing means we have 2 big QB contracts - like paying for the top 5 QB's in the league but getting half the production.

No doubt there - but 1 person vs many doesn't always equal the right decisions. Ask the Cowboys or Raiders. All comes down to whether or not they listen...how good of a saleman Campen is...

I hope he is - and if he is I would expect he would agree - take one of the top 3 LT's if they are available and never doubt it

1 still falls into the category of "very few"

Very few people "in the building" have shown they know how to evaluate OLine talent given the 6-7 seasons - look at the money wasted and lack of production. If he is then great, it gives you a perceived flexibility in the draft - not proven - still a big risk. But even if he is capable he is already a versatile guy who can play other positions - and given how shallow our OLine skills are the best option is probably still to take the best LT available and have an inexpensive, high performing OLine for 3-4 more years.

Trade down for a HUGE haul....easily 1-2 first round picks and maybe more for those top EDGE rushers....setup next year for the big splash

IMO if Neal, Ekwonu, Cross, Hutchinson, or Thibodeaux are there at 6 you take them and never look back (in this order). But that is what I think we SHOULD do.... I am afraid they are overvaluing QB's and will take Pickett or Willis at 6....but I don't think we should. If the 5 above are gone we SHOULD trade back and grab at least a 2nd round pick since OL is fairly deep this year and taking a QB at 6 is too high for this class given next year's current view

I would change this to drafting a QB @ #6....if we trade down and take Willis I am happy with it assuming we missed the top LT's

I only think it hurts our chances at a vet QB (none of which seem like a great idea except Minshew IMO) - neither Seattle nor Indy have a 1st RD pick this year so if anything it takes a little pressure off us to reach and better opens the possibility of trading down.

Exactly - the "Yes" "No" isn't enough options to clearly vote your opinion. I would love to get Watson - if his legal stuff was gone - and we had a stable coaching staff and OLine - and he didn't cost 3 years worth of talent lol.

Based on the last few years and our current roster this has to be an option being discussed. Big thing if they did this would be future draft picks and smart signings/draft in 2022. We shouldn't trade for many 2022 draft picks in a weak class for key positions we would need (QB, RB, DT, Interior OL)...we have too many holes that this draft won't fill long term and free agency doesn't have available. And don't overspend on 28+ yr old vets since we know we won't compete for 2 years. If we blow it up we take a hit for the 2022-23 seasons and pile up for 2023 & 2024 drafts under new coaching - no half way. Honestly given the players in FA and this draft as much as I hate to see Moore, CMC, Robby, Jackson go - it may be the only way we avoid 4-5 years of mediocrity.

I am 100% for Minshew - one big issue I felt like Darnold had was a lack of leadership and confidence - he never looked like he was in charge of that offense on the field. Minshew did not appear to have that issue...low cost - decent potential - and we still upgrade the line in the draft? Worst case scenario we still get a good draft pick in 2022 and we don't sacrifice picks like we might he we go after some of these other vet QB's. Sounds like best case for us right now to me

This makes no sense at all to me - PJ for Poeltl straight up maybe.....by why would we give up anything else? Poeltl is not an upgrade over PJ except his position....maybe PJ and some cash.....