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It feels like some people forget how good early Jake Delhomme was.

You're going to hate on darnold at every turn but you're somehow sure pj is decent? Weird.

I love all this behind the scenes stuff they have allowed us to see this off season. Its so refreshing even though I'm not sure the franchise has much to gain from it.

Yea there was a stretch where that right side with Otah at RT mauled people in the run game. I believe some of our highest franchise rushing games came at that time. He was RT that game Deangelo and Stewart ran all over NYG I think it was? I believe it was a night game.

It is a backwards way to look at it though. Some systems and teams are notorious for making average qbs look above average. That has to be factored in as well. Maybe which colleges produced the most highly touted prospects coming out of college that ended up being busts. Any college can randomly hit on a good qb eventually. The question is do some college routinely make their qb look better than they will be at the next level.

But if there is not a QB your coaches and scouts dont believe in you cant just keep taking them over and over in the first round hoping one will work out. Sometimes it's best if you dont believe your guy is there to work on filling out the rest of the roster instead of just taking a qb to take one. That way when you do potentially draft your qb they arent walking on to a roster totally devoid of talent because you only took qbs in the first round every year against the front offices feelings about that player.

They didnt get his guy so obviously the coaching staff has no idea what they're doing!

He said in his post draft interview that he had been set on a number. I dont remember which but it was in the 20s, but the rule change had started making him consider a single digit number but he didnt specify the actual number at the time.

Yea I believe I saw Rhule in an interview that he didnt see Fields as better cumulative option than having both Darnold and Horn on the team.

Exactly. Hopefully Sam is the answer. Hes young and regardless of who likes it or hates it, hes our QB now. If he ends up not being the QB the team needs him to be then it will suck for a year or so but if the draft ends up being as good as we hope and we have another draft like that next year then whatever QB we do end up drafting/signing will be walking into a hell of a good situation with a solid roster around them.

Well we do have a good idea how they felt about Fields. He was there for the taking and they chose not to.

Well he said the coaches and scouts saw Darnold ahead of Fields. If the coaches and scouts werent that impressed with Fields from their scouting then why take him?

There is a reason these nfl analysts you speak of work for the media instead of an NFL front office.

If Sam does well I mean.

I wonder how many fans hating on the draft the panthers had is entirely because they didnt take Fields. I also wonder if those fans will change their tune if Sam doesn't well and/or Fields isnt the superstar they seem to think hes guaranteed to be.

Our offense is nothing like those teams you mentioned. Our offense is really good at the skill positions.

They were most likely bluffing. Not in the way you're thinking though. They were trying to drum up as much value for trading back as possible or hoping a team would trade in front of them to take Fields so someone else (probably Sewell) would fall and it obviously didnt work like they had hoped.

They already said they had 16 players with first round grades. Why would they want to trade back to 20?

Definitely probably couldnt. Surtain went the next pick and Dallas really wanted a CB as well.

Just so some of you know, you have to have another team to trade back..

I cant believe how many people are disappointed by this. It was pretty clear they didnt care for Fields. They acted like they did a bit to try to drum up value for a trade back. Which they obviously didnt get but I would assume tried since they used all their time. That should give you an idea of what the demand is for Fields.

Well he is a Panther now so that makes sense..

One thing you've got to remember is the panthers scout team and Fitterer have a lot more access and information than we do as fans. Just because so many fans see Fields as a sure thing apparently doesnt mean they do from their scouting. I'm sure if they scouted him and all thought he was a surefire star then they would for sure be drafting him at 8 if he was there.

This definitely makes it look like the Fields interest was most likely a smokescreen to drum up trade value, because if the Pat's trade up, that's who they're taking.

I would say if he doesn't pan out losing a future 2nd is a pretty low risk high reward gamble either way, and it sounds like you want him to fail anyways. You can not like a move and still hope for the best. So many people would rather be proven right at the teams expense than proven wrong it seems.