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Everything posted by frankw
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People are expecting our rookie QB to throw for 4,000? We still have to draft another wideout. I'm optimistic and love this staff on paper but that's all we've got right now is on paper.
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There are a lot of Alabama fans in the Carolinas who have waited years for us to finally draft one of Saban's QB's. The shitposting you see is the result.
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The potential is there. But will he take the step from training camp MVP to regular season stud? If there was ever a time to step up and show out this is it. I'm hoping he has a healthy and dominant season.
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Smoked Utah St ULM Vanderbilt Austin Peay Kansas State. The NFL is just a smidge different. Injuries can happen to any of these QB's but you can't deny Young is 190ish at best on gamedays. Stop the shenanigans. He's going to have to get to 210-215 to hold up for a lengthy NFL career.
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Cool? They aren't going to be stepping between Bryce Young and massive NFL defenders barreling toward him.
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I'd say it's a little of both. But after how much he hyped him for the draft it did make me double take with making that video right after the trade downplaying DJ's significance. WR is still a very coveted position. Hopefully DJ does just enough to help the Bears but doesn't go on an absolute tear like some other former Panthers have done when we've cut ties. I know we're all hopped up on hopium right now but if it's me idgaf if we signed Thielen and Chark. I'm still taking a stud receiver in the 2nd or 3rd round.
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Well we definitely hope not. Same for Mrs. Tepper. Let the coaching staff make the call of which QB they will be developing.
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Charles Johnson is one of my all time favorite Panthers but who is asking him which QB to draft? With that logic let's ask Julius Peppers what he thinks. Steve Smith is a hell of a player and our best receiver in history but who knows about his ability as an evaluator. He raved about DJ Moore we know that. Evaluation abilities undetermined at best.
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The combine doesn't tell the whole story obviously but it can be a piece of the puzzle. It would be nice to at least have some of this information to reference for the other quarterback we are heavily considering for the first pick. But Bryce didn't throw at the combine and didn't even weigh in at his own proday. Didn't he go 1-5 throwing deep last week?
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The pro Stroud folks aren't like this. Young fans are like the worst Cam fans but the kid hasn't even stepped on the field yet. So ready to get this draft over with.
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Welp now @gibranis pooing posts. Alabama fan confirmed.
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So are you a Bama fan or do you just follow them loosely? Please just cop to it at least the OSU homers here are upfront. It's funny I've yet to see one admitted Alabama fan in weeks but Bryce Young superfans are crawling out of the woodwork. Bryce is in rarefied air as far as his build in the NFL. There's a reason fellas are clinging to Brees and Wilson. Later in his career Brees did nothing but statpad and Wilson has already gotten a head coach fired on his new team. The only other one you could mention is Kyler Murray and I do enjoy how you pro Young guys don't want any parts of that one now. Convenient. Anywho the negatives for Stroud are how will he react to NFL pressure and how quickly will he process all that. Based on what I know of his character and him as a person I have no doubt he will be committed to soaking up everything the coaching staff throws at him. He has the pocket presence the accuracy and he can make the throws. If they think they can coach him up make the pick. Moving to Bryce Young if he's the pick there's some stipulations you need to get out of the way first. Foremost you need to keep investing big in your OL depth. Two you do not want him taking hits in the pocket or scrambling much. But that's his game isn't it? Well if you want him available through a 17 game season that's largely out the window. He's going to have to adjust his game to withstand the rigors of a full season. He played against some big boys in the SEC but this is a new level. And even in the SEC he got his shoulder banged up. You have to acknowledge these concerns and act accordingly.
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Where did you get the word bust from anything I said? He isn't on a hall of fame trajectory just yet. I mean if he is so is Josh Allen. Could they be? Sure. But they are not in the same tier as Mahomes. Sorry that's just reality. You have to win at least one ring. When you get to two that's get another level. Look man I'm not the one comparing Stroud to everyone from NFL GOAT's to NBA GOAT's to martial arts legends. I'm not trying to compare him to any of that because he has everything to prove still. He or Young could either come out of the gate swinging or they could require a longer adjustment. I think many Panthers fans need to adjust their expectations at least for the first couple of seasons.
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Go to the Panthers website pull up their roster and look for all the 5'10 or below players. There are 4. Now if you repeated that process with the other 31 NFL teams what do you think you'd find? The folks who don't see this as an issue are not going to be convinced and those who do aren't either. What it boils down to is either you believe he will be one of 3 outliers in the last 40 years or he won't. If we draft him I hope he balls out but it will remain in the back of my mind.
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This will be a circus. Honestly glad we are not getting involved. Good luck to him though.
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He has some of those qualities but i think they are different. It's not an absurd comp though. Burrow is a very good young QB. But two things he is not. 1 a hall of famer and 2 a two time super bowl champion before the age of 28. Young has been compared to everything from that to Steph Curry to Michael Jordan to Bruce Lee. Need I go on?
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But but but Drew Brees. April. Come on already
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Mahomes comparisons are peak hopium. If Bryce Young were that the Bears would not have budged from their spot.
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It all depends on how the staff view this. If they think they can coach up (no shortage of minds) then roll the dice. If they think Bryce is the better choice go with that. But you can't coach Young into a bigger frame.
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I'm trying to be cordial but you quoted me. And the other day you pulled our prior disagreement into a whole new thread you created. I'm not trying to change your mind generally no one here has been able to do that on most topics. But we still talk about this sports team to pass the time. That's all this is. I'll give Reich and company the benefit of the doubt and accept whichever QB our staff believes will be the guy to lead this franchise the next ten years or more. I hope their selection pays off.
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I'm sorry that is not something you want to discuss but it's very relevant given what we've traded to make this selection. But we can end the convo no problem thanks for the chat.
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If Fitterer or our offensive coordinator have tipped their hand about which QB they prefer that's news to me and a lot of other folks.
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Of course either could get hurt. But only one of them is smaller than most of their own teammates let alone the other rosters we'll be going up against.