frankw

Pick six incoming.

Is there any part in there about making a trade for one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the league and bidding against yourself in the process?

You mean Matt Rhule. Even the huddle knew.

There are three and a half seasons of film of Darnold being one of if not the worst starting quarterback in the league for every gm in the league to see. Three more starts will make absolutely no difference. He is a bust. We got conned.

Yeah the first year second year third year sales pitch sounded alright until you got to the part where he skips town in the middle of the night.

If someone out there can watch this mess week in and week out and still ask for a third helping next season more power to you I guess. But it requires one to ignore what their own eyes have seen. And that's Matt Rhule at the controls navigating this roster. The gameday struggles are the cherry on top and have not improved at all. You can rabble rouse about Ron Rivera but we got outcoached by him

The receiver we drafted in the second round is also continually either a healthy scratch or just overall ignored.

Idk when you see the team continue to look exactly like they did at the play in game last season at different points this season it makes you doubt the coaching. At some point we can't keep excusing this and have to look to the root.

These takes about mobile QB's are all from the same playbook. They'll drag him for his completion percentage even though he's been a rookie learning on the fly but this same board made excuse after excuse for third year QB Darnold who has one of the league worst QBR and passer rating amongst starting quarterbacks. To have a young rookie with promise waiting would be a major boost for this franchise heading into next season but people who ridicule others for talking about it are just projecting. They know. They just can't admit it.

There are better ways to get some attention. But we're all Panthers fans. For me the thing is I have the added perspective of the history of our previous coaches to look back on. Looking at the top to bottom failures in roster building and gameday coaching inadequacies the odds of a miraculous turnaround are slim to none. The only path forward from here looks to be what we should have done all along. Bring in a head honcho who has actually coached in the NFL who will bring experienced NFL staff with him and not college yes men. It was always a gamble to give a Baylor/Temple HC with one season of low level NFL coaching experience one of the richest head coaching contracts in the league. Nothing personal against the man if it doesn't work it doesn't work life goes on.

That's a scary injury. You never want to see that for any player. Glad he's ok.

That 19-20 record stood out then and screams now. Also the "can he play LT?" comment when we still don't have a left tackle two years later hits hard.

Oh absolutely. Rhule and Fitt blew it. They got cute trying to find hidden gems on the oline and they got exactly what most other teams with NFL experience already knew. But as far as a public optics standpoint though Rhule has gone pretty easy on Sam. Yes he has been critical but not like this and it's been long known he did not want Cam when he first took the job. If Cam doesn't have a future here that's fine I had accepted that a long time ago but to bring him back into this mess just to throw him under several buses each week only further adds to the perception that we are led by a bunch of amateurs in over their heads.

I'm sure he legitimately did want a break from football altogether but I also think he got a sense of something from this regime that helped expedite his desire to move on.

We coddled that man like a newborn all through training camp and preseason. The Panthers social media team even publicly acknowledged the fact fans were calling for him to play with an announcement. He's gotten better treatment than Teddy and Cam by this staff I don't even think it's disputable.

I said all along when that happened it didn't feel right. Now we know. He made the right call.

Consistent losing speaks for itself.

The word rebuild hasn't jived with our actions though. 30 million for one year of Teddy Bridgewater. Three picks and a 19 million dollar guaranteed salary for Darnold. Multiple trades for corners. That's not a rebuild my guy.

Actually four you are forgetting the ATL game. I don't see the purpose of this exercise though. The team overall was much different the first couple of games. Our defense was one of the top rated units. We also had a healthy CMC who was getting 30 touches a game and heavily relied upon in those wins. This team is going nowhere long term until the staff is upgraded though.

When I saw who started this thread I already knew what time it was. Always with the agendas. This is a bad team and Cam is part of that but moreover Rhule has overseen it while things have deteriorated to this point. We need an offensive line.

We know what Cam is and isn't. But people throw that record going back to 2018 out there while somehow failing to acknowledge this team is much worse which since then. Hurney and Rivera are gone. Who do you think is most responsible for what we are seeing?

Wow I can't even lie that was a great throw. Ah I miss those days.