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Only because Smitty should have already been in, but Fitz is 2nd all time in catches and yards, he's a 1st ballot HOFer, so Fitz getting in over Smitty this year isn't a problem. The HOF is going to be missing out on some worthy WRs for a while, possibly until after their eligibility is up and they end up being senior committee selections. There is such a backlog of guys who should have gotten in, and at some point in the not too distant future, they'll start to be passed on the yards list by guys getting an extra game and playing in a much more pass happy league. Add in the new rules they made, and any non clear cut first ballot WR is going to struggle to get in right now.

Overrated? Sure, in most years his season isn't winning OROY because there would have been a QB who had a good enough season to win the award, and most WRs who win it put up more yards than him. But also remember, passing was down league wide this year, you always have to look at a players' season through that lens too. Again, look at where he finished the year compared to the rest of the league 14th in Yards (13th among WRs) 15th in TDs (11th among WRs) 10th in 20+ yard receptions 10th in 40+ yard receptions 7th in 1st Down receptions (6th among WRs) 19th in YPC (but 8th among players with 40+ rec) He was a Top 15 WR as a rookie on an offense that ranked 26th in passing this year. How do you say that player is "overrated"?!?!

And 19th is a great place to find a plug and play high level MLB too, which we badly need.

Really hoping you can get T-Mac jerseys next year with the gold shield that he'll have because of this. Would be awesome to get a blue jersey with the gold shield

I highly doubt black players in college and the NFL are okay with white players using that word like that, and seeing as he's clearly always done it, I'm guessing the Polynesian players have just always been considered part of the black community in sports in that way. What's probably so ridiculous about this, is that I'll bet his black teammates have always called him that word as well, which also would be why he's always used it as well. This is only a thing because that girl reacted that way. It's also being used for engagement by social media people, in the same way they posted the clip of him saying that girl clearly doesn't only eat salads and making it seem like he was insinuating she was fat, but when you watch the clip he's clearly saying it because she's eating something else at the moment and he pointed to it when saying that. So he was clearly making the joke that she doesn't "only" eat salads, but they are just trying to get clicks and comments.

To be fair, he said "should", which isn't an incorrect statement even if he doesn't have any inside information. He SHOULD have been put in last year but was kept out by the stupid new voting rules, had the previous ones been in place, he'd 100% been in last year, as he was likely 4th in voting among the 7 finalists and only barely missed out on getting the 40/50 needed.

I. Told. You. 27 months ago and a full 18 months before the 2025 draft, I started a thread on here saying how we needed to target a WR named Tetairoa McMillan in the 2025 draft. Yes, in that initial post I admitted that I’m an Arizona alum and that while I may have some bias towards the player because of it, I still knew he was going to be a flat out stud in the NFL. For that next 18 months leading up to the draft, I was constantly told I had homer glasses on and he wasn’t as good as I thought, for any number of asinine reasons. I defended him and my thoughts on his game every time the nonsense came up about him being too slow or not loving the game, or whatever other dumb things people said about him. I said on numerous occasions that he’d widely be considered a Top 10 WR and in the discussion as a Top 5 WR by the time he’s due to sign his rookie extension, and even if he never improved one bit, his floor in the league was as around the 20th best WR. Well, let’s look at how his rookie season finished…. 14th in Yards (13th among WRs) 15th in TDs (11th among WRs) 10th in 20+ yard receptions 10th in 40+ yard receptions 7th in 1st Down receptions (6th among WRs) 19th in YPC (but 8th among players with 40+ rec) And he did all that in the 26th best passing offense in the league and for much of the season without another receiving weapon to attack the attention of the defense… that’s some Steve Smith type of poo right there. So you know what, even being his biggest pre-draft supporter imaginable, it looks like even I was too low on my projection of him without improving his game one bit. I’m not going to pretend he doesn’t have things to work on and get better at, but you have to be crazy to watch what he did this year, see how he talks about his game, and think he won’t be putting in the work this offseason to improve his game, and knowing that he'll get there. We’ve found our true #1 WR for the next decade. I know it’s not like the team read the message boards and I convinced them to draft him, but I’ll never not be convinced that I didn’t help speak T-Mac to the Panthers into existence, LOL. So many called me crazy, dumb, blinded by my fandom, and all sorts of other things, but they were all wrong, I was right and they all know it now. As I've said numerous times before, in all my years as a Wildcat, for both basketball and football, there have only been 2 players that I was 100% sure they would become stars in the pros, true can't miss prospects. The first was Rob Gronkowski, who only turned into the best TE in NFL history, the other being our own Mr. Tetairoa McMillan. Tetairoa McMillan… Arizona GOAT… Panthers Star… and your 2025 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year! Bear Down and Keep Pounding Tetairoa!

I hate how this stuff gets leaked early, same with the draft, let these things get their live moments on air. On that note, I'm off of here until after the OROY is announced, at which time I'll return with a thread I've prepared lol

I wanted someone to hire him so we got the picks, but I'm also not upset that he'll now be back. I genuinely don't understand why so many fans on here dislike him so much. No, he's not perfect and made some mistakes this year, especially at the end of the playoff game and going so soft in coverage on the final drive. But considering this place torched him all offseason for us having the "worst defense in NFL history" last year. Said in the whole pre-draft process how we had to go defense in round 1 because of it and then complained the rest of the offseason that we didn't do enough to improve the defensive roster. How do people say all that about the defense and then complain when he turned that same unit into a pretty respectable defense this year. They were really the only reason we were in a lot of games for most of the season, as the middle part of the season they really stepped up and were playing like one of the better defenses in the league. I don't see any reason we can't improve even more next year if we spend another offseason focusing on adding pieces on that side of the ball, which we should be able to do with our draft picks and cap space. We had the historically worst defense ever last year and people are upset because we weren't the 85 Bears this year, make it make sense.

Evero to the Raiders makes zero sense unless the OC he's pitching them is a failed HC who doesn't have interest in trying for it again. They're a team about to draft a QB #1 overall, developing him is job #1 for the new coach/staff. Hiring a DC with a young up and coming OC wouldn't make any sense, because then you risk losing that OC to a HC job after maybe just a year or two and that young QB has to change system, play caller, etc. It's why hiring an offensive minded coach makes the only sense. The Raiders have to make the right hire/pick with this HC hire and #1 pick combo because of that division they're in, it's a gauntlet and you can't screw up this opportunity.

It’s got nothing to do with the event itself, it’s about the accolade and it lessening the meaning of it, particularly for past players. Just call it “The postseason games” or something dumb like that. Then have pro bowl voting still and those players are then invited to participate in the event, but any alternates aren’t then considered “pro bowlers”

He wanted him as a backup there, not to be their starter, big difference. That doesn't mean he won't get an opportunity to start, but if he does, I think it's more them punting on the season to get a high pick in next year's better QB class than thinking he actually can be their long term solution. Saw it the other day, since 2000 there have been something like 600 times a QB has thrown 200 passes in a season. Of those, Shedder ranked in the bottom 10 for QBR, he literally had one of the 10 worst seasons of the last quarter century, he's not a starter in this league.

JFC.... now Flacco is in the pro bowl, what a freaking joke this has become, time to officially kill this event off. When the 5-12 Cleveland Browns had 2 Pro Bowl QB's this year and still need to find a new Week 1 starter next year, you know it's jumped the shark and time to put it off to pasture.

I love all the people saying he's our best WR right now, I think you're letting that playoff game skew your thinking just a tad bit. I know he started the year hurt and it affected him, but he still played in 11 games and only had 400 yards, with only 2 regular season games having over 52 yards (and still only 60 and 74 yards in those two). His playoff performance was the same total as his 2 best games this year combined, which is awesome, but it also shows the playoff game was more of an outlier than the norm for him right now. Love his potential and think he can be a really good player for us, but saying he's our best WR right now over T-Mac just makes you sound dumb, sorry.

He didn't make it for the same reason Luke didn't and the same reason Smitty never will unless they change the procedure again. This new rule of needing to get 40 of 50 votes in the final round of voting is just sooooooooooooo dumb At that point it's already down to people who should be in the HOF and all it takes is a handful of split votes to keep more than worthy players out of the HOF in any given year. So unless there is collusion to among the voters to make sure only 9 or less people are not voting for certain players, we're going to keep seeing this happen every year, and we'll see more than worthy players never end up getting in at all. All it takes is for 20 of the 50 voters to split their vote and it keeps both players out that year. And when that final vote is by voting for 5 guys out of 7, it's going to happen every year unless they start colluding to make sure certain guys get in when they should.

Not when said QB is Josh Allen, it would be like when Andy Reid retires in the next few years and KC making the hire without involving Mahomes in the discussion at all. When you have a QB like they, they 100% should be involved in the discussions to make sure there is alignment and the QB/HC will mesh well together. I'm sure they didn't just let him make the decision as that would be dumb, but it would be even dumber to have not involved him in the process at all.

The press conference was ugly and would make any coach a little concerned about working for said owner. But HC jobs for the team with the best QB in the league in the middle of his prime don't come around too often. I think every candidate would be able to look past the owner in this situation to get a chance at having Allen's prime years to chase a ring. I still think if they lose in the first round and thus fired McDermott a week earlier, Harbaugh very likely would have been their next HC, but this all happened after he was already lined up with the Giants.

It honestly makes no sense. The Bills problems weren't with the coaching staff, it was with the roster their GM put together. Firing McDermott was their way of saying they felt things weren't working, but then go and just hire their OC which will just keep things mostly the same. The move would have been to replace the GM, not the HC, very odd to then end up hiring their OC instead.

He has Caleb Downs falling to 11th If he slips to outside the Top 10, I'd be aggressive and move up to get him as long as it doesn't cost a future 1st to do so.

Would rather spend big on an edge rusher and address MLB in the draft, we need a vet edge who can step in from day 1 and be our best pass rusher, better than Scourton who I think has great potential. We're not getting that in the draft this year, use that on MLB or an OT if there is a starter there and then take a MLB in the 2nd. That would be a much better way to allocate the cap to the starting lineup while giving us the best results as well.

I could see Shannahan wanting him to try and replicate some of what they used to do with Deebo with his size and speed.

No, he went to Miami, Cardinals is still open

This just can't be a real stat, right? That seems so wild

To everyone saying he won't take a DC job and only will be taking a HC job this year, I'm not entirely sure about that. To begin with, in today's NFL, most teams prefer to hire an offensive background coach over defensive. Adding to that, there have been 3 hires so far this year, with 2 of them being defensive guys. And since there are only going to be so many teams looking to hire a defensive minded HC each year, it decreases his odds. Also, Saleh was always a hot name in this cycle and teams are probably more familiar with him as they've been looking into him for a while already. Then you look at the openings left... The Cardinals just fired a defensive coach, can't see them hiring another right after. I can't see him wanting to go to the Raiders or Browns (sure, the Browns could actually be a great fit because of the defense they'd have for him to take over, but going from Josh Allen to the freaking Browns situation would be real tough I'd think). That just leaves the Ravens and Steelers. He's probably too old for the Steelers to have any interest in him and I've got to think the Ravens are going to be looking for an innovative offensive mind type of HC to maximize Lamar's prime window. Sure, he might just sit the season out and try for a HC job next offseason, but I just don't see any fits that make sense for him right now.