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Just saw something similar in an article, so went and looked, and T-Mac vs the rest of the team in receiving stats is kinda crazy. Our 2nd-4th leading pass catchers (XL, Rico, Tremble) have a combined 645 yards, or 103 yards less than T-Mac has by himself Or... T-Mac has 73 more yards than all of our other WRs combined

I'll be honest, I don't really know exactly what goes into PFF grades, but I'm surprised an 8 catch, 130 yard, 2 TD game with no drops didn't grade out higher than a 77.

I almost fully expect this to be a problem this week and then the team will sit him, knowing a return to a performance like against the Saints could really mess with everyone's thinking of Bryce after this game. Just seeing that hobble to the podium after the game, he's going to be a real question mark as to if he can suit up Monday night I think.

lol no, sorry, but just no. Yes, I agree, an elite WR is more valuable than an RB, but CMC isn't a RB. He's a true offensive weapon who is just different than almost any RB before him, he's legitimately the best pass catching RB of all time. Having a player who can do what he does is way more valuable than any WR you can have, if you throw health concerns aside (and current age), there isn't a non QB offensive player in the entire NFL that I'd take before CMC if building a team for one season right now. CMC is looking at a first ballot HOF career, I don't care how good T-Mac looks, or how big of a fan you are of him (c'mon, just look at who is making this particular post), there is no logical way to make an argument at the moment that T-Mac has a chance at being a better player than CMC. That's not to say he can't of course, anything can happen, but if T-Mac ends up a better player than CMC, than he's going to be a no brainer first ballot HOFer, which is just insane to predict for any player 11 games into their career, I don't care who they are or what they've done during said rookie season. If they re-did the 2017 draft, CMC actually moves up in the draft and would go 3rd or 4th after Mahomes, Garrett, and then I think there would actually be a possible debate of him vs TJ Watt. Notably given your argument, he'd still for sure be drafted over Cooper Kupp.

CMC will have a Smitty on the Ravens vs Panthers type of performance. 150+ yards from scrimmage and 2 TDs I'm done trying to predict what our own team will do, this is the most unpredictable Panthers team I can remember

I think next week he should move into 3rd in receptions and 2nd in yards in a season by a rookie in team history. He's 1 behind DJ in receptions (on pace to beat CMC's record of 80 by 4) and 6 yards behind Colbert and 40 behind DJ in yards (and on pace to beat KB's record of 1,008 by about 150)

I get that, and all I'm saying is I feel like CMC is going to take this game personally and on the big MNF stage, is going to put an ass whopping on us. I'm still of the belief that a healthy and motivated CMC is still the best non QB in the entire NFL

In SF on MNF CMC is about to put a Smitty like beating on us with that kind of stage, not sure how beatable they're going to be with him doing that.

Looks like someone has been going back and re-reading my posts about him from almost 2 years ago LOL. Green has always been my comp of him going back to his Freshman year in school. And the thing I kept saying in the lead to the draft that people thought made me sound crazy, was that I said by the time he signed his rookie extension, he'd be a clear Top 10 WR who is considered by some (or many?) to be a Top 5 WR.

I don't think it's a matter of being "on the precipice of taking games over" as much as "Canales and Bryce might finally be realizing they need to force feed him targets" It's really felt all year long like they have been trying to prove they can spread the ball around with a balanced attack, in particularly in key situations where they just use him as a decoy route and don't even look his way before the pass is thrown. Yes, he's had a few drops that hurt his stats a little, but in reality, what's been holding him back isn't himself, or even Bryce's play. But the play calling and decision making by Bryce once the ball is snapped, and just not looking his way as often as a team with such a gap between WR 1 and 2 like we are right now.

Not saying it’s what I’d do (because it’s not), but a lot of coaches like to do that so they can then double the elite WR and think doing those two in tandem will shut down a passing game as much as possible

I'm the biggest T-Mac fan there is, and I have no problem admitting that I was one of those people saying that in the offseason. For me it was always the word "expect" that got me with that discussion. Always said it was a legit possibility, but to "expect" it wasn't fair. Especially for a rookie, even while it happens at a much more frequent rate these days, it's still a difficult thing for any rookie to hit that mark. I also said that before we traded Thielen, and before Coker got hurt a day later. Once those two things happened, I definitely shifted into thinking 1k was closer to an "expectation" than just being hopeful to see it. Then really leaned into thinking it should happen once XL got hurt as well, at that point it almost got to where it would be a real disappointment if he didn't get there.

This His foot was initially inbounds, but his toe 100% went out as he pushed off that step, no doubt about it.

100% give him his props, he earned it today. But it's the same thing I've said all season long when pointing out concerning things after wins. If you (and by you, I more mean the team) just stick your head in the sand over real concerns, just because we won (or even because he did have his best game as a pro yet), then it's only going to cause problems down the line. Great game, full credit, but I think the game on the whole was more fools gold than a breakthrough. Get upset at me for saying it, I know most people will, but just my objective perspective.

In no world do I expect him to make every throw in a game, at all. But it's that there are certain types of throws that he just flat out can't make, and he had a number of them again today. That's what concerns me, not that he wasn't perfect, but that we continue to see him try to thread the ball into windows when he needs to be driving it, but he's just unable to drive those throws in that way. And again, I give him full credit for having his best game of his career, I'm not out here saying he played bad today, not at all. But it's still just a fact that he doesn't have an NFL arm and that fact alone is why I hope we move on from him this offseason. It's like how people say a golfer has every shot in his bag. The Bryce equivalent would be that he can only make half the shots that professional golfers need to be able to make. Sure, you could still go out there and play a great round, maybe win a tournament. But that doesn't mean it's a golfer I'm going to make a long term bet on.

Also a Bryce hater here, and yes, I'll give him credit for having his best game of his career. But at the same time, he still had so many just baffling plays and terrible throws. It's a very weird feeling after this one, as I still very much don't think he is a viable long term solution at QB, but it was his best game of his career, I can admit that. But also admittedly, my fear is he just played his way into having his 5th year picked up and given the starting position again next year.

Yes, the mistakes are bad, but for me, they're still the secondary problem, the big one is the numerous incomplete passes because he's unable to drive the ball when he isn't able to have perfect balance and step into the throw. Because even if you fix his mental mistakes, he still will never have a strong enough arm for this league. You can't win with a QB who can't drive a throw from the hash mark to the opposite sideline and only 15 yards downfield.

Kneeling on it is a terrible indictment on Bryce and them knowing his lack of arm strength. As we didn't have enough time to get into FG range, but we could have gotten into range or a Hail Mary... if we had a QB capable of throwing that pass. Canales felt that even if they got a chunk play and called the TO, that Bryce still wouldn't be able to throw the Hail Mary, so just kneeled on it instead.

Also a microcosm of this game itself Bryce plays his best game of his career, but at the same time also had a good 6-8 plays (if not more) today where he just made terrible decisions and/or throws that in the end, likely cost us the win. So even when he plays well, his issues still cause problems

The weird thing is that in ways this was his best game of the season, maybe his best as a Panther. Easily his best game of throwing the ball down the field for a change. But in others, you could say it was one of his worst as he's made some terrible mistakes on critical plays that have clearly cost us the game. Holding it too long taking a few bad sacks as well as multiple passes where he just doesn't have the arm to drive it properly, but even an average NFL arm would have been good enough to make the plays and we likely win the game.

That play might be the perfect representation of this season

Noodle arm can't drive the ball You can't contend with a QB who can only throw touch passes

This one has nothing to do with T-Mac, I'd be saying this same thing if it was XL, a player I was calling for us to trade at the deadline because I think he's a bust. It just happened to be T-Mac on the play, but it has literally nothing to do with him, it's plain as day that no player was catching that ball on purpose, it would have needed to be deflected directly into them.

Well looking like he's finally going to crack 200 yards for the 2nd time this season. Guess we'll have another week of people going back to thinking Bryce can be our long term solution again