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The no brainer move would have been trading him mid season after those couple big games. Because we're not getting a comp pick for him, nobody is signing him to a big enough deal to warrant a comp pick coming back our way, especially as we'll have some cap space to spend ourselves, so any signing we make would more than counter act the contract he'd be signing with someone.

Why are we throwing that to XL when T-Mac had 1 on 1 on the other side?!?!

Jack of a few trades, master of none

The Lions make way too much sense. He'd have a ton of weapons and a QB who can deliver the ball on time for when he schemes open their WRs and RBs in space. Unless he gets a HC in a surprising twist, I have to think he'll end up in Detroit.

This fuging fool T-Mac putting up the numbers he did in this offense this year is closer to that 1,500 statistical outlier he's talking about this class not having than anything else. He finished 14th in receiving yards and was one of 19 players to cross 1,000 yards in a year that was dominated by the rushing game across the NFL. He did this in the 26th ranked passing game in the league, a team averaging just 179 passing yards per game. The other players to cross the 1,000 mark this year and NOT be in a Top 14 ranked passing offense and at least 218 ypg were Zay Flowers, Justin Jefferson, Devonta Smith, AJ Brown, and Wan'Dale Robinson, that's it. He finished 7th in the NFL in receptions for 1st downs. He finished 10th in 20+ yard plays AND 40+ yard plays. He finished 15th in Rec TDs He did this as an undisputed #1 WR and target on a team who frankly for the majority of the season did not have a reliable #2 weapon to take defensive attention away from him, and again, all as a rookie. And that's before you even get into the limitations of being in a Bryce lead offense, could you imagine if he fell to the Cowboys and they drafted him instead of trading for Pickens, who only had 1,400 yards this year. What our guy did this year was downright remarkable and he's only beginning to scratch the surface of what he can become in this league. He's going to get faster and more physical at the point of attack, he's going to take over and make fools like this look so dumb when looked back upon in a few years.

This is actually something I feel hasn't been talked about near enough this year, not just his 3rd downs, but his ability to get 1st downs. He finished 7th in the league in receptions for 1st downs (6th among WRs) with 55 1st downs on 70 catches. Add in his 7 TDs and he scored or got a 1st down on 62 of his 70 catches this year, that's an insane percentage for any player, let alone a rookie. The only other rookie in the Top 42 1st down receptions was Warren who came in at #29, and he had 13 less 1st downs despite actually having 6 more catches this year than T-Mac did.

As I said in another thread recently, my official victory lap and bow will come once that OROY is announced in about a month. But yes, I absolutely spoke T-Mac to our Panthers into existence, I'll never be convinced otherwise hahaha, the campaign started with a thread in Nov 2023, a full 18 months before he was even draft eligible.

This is very true, if it was the 49ers, it would be a heavy SF crowd, they travel well for playoff games. But the Rams barely have home field advantage in LA usually, there shouldn't be a massive Rams contingent in town for the game.

I agree, we don't need to draft another young edge rusher to add to this group, even a 1st rounder as we'll now be late in the round too. Biggest FA contract should go to the best pass rusher we can sign, use that 1st on a LB or S

I honestly don't understand why, other than his season not living up to expectations and/or the Raiders being the worst team. He had over 1,300 yards and 10 TDs, that's not the 7th best rookie in a year like this, personally I think he probably should be #2 behind T-Mac, Henderson a slight 3rd behind Jeanty.

Pretty sure there should have been a penalty on the Steelers there. Looked like someone leapt over the center and put his hand on the centers back when doing so, that's 100% a penalty if I saw that correctly

This has been an awesome way to end the regular season, what a finish this has been.

Honestly I don't think there is any one player or coach, it's been a season of different things in most weeks to get us there, and honestly sometimes it was just luck in the end that won a game, that happens too. Sometimes it was the other team overlooking us and expecting an easy win and it biting them in the ass. Sometimes it was someone on offense or defense having themselves a game. Sometimes it was the defensive gameplan and execution. And sure, Canales did have himself a well called game or two this year that helped us get a win, but it was few and far between and was probably more a blind squirrel finding a nut than showing his true ability.

No, voting is done before the playoffs start, so he could have 350 yards and 8 TDs next week and it wouldn't matter.

Canales has been the #1 thing holding us back this year, and I say that as one of the biggest Bryce bashers on here. I’ve been saying it even since we shut the Falcons out, I started a thread after that one calling out my issues with Canales and his playcalling and it got poo’d into oblivion. He's not creative and he thinks he can always trick the defense, but in the end just calls terrible plays because of it. I don’t think Bryce is a legitimate starting QB in this league, but Canales is even less of a legitimate HC than Bryce is as a starting QB.

hahaha well thank you And yep, I knew I was right 2+ years ago when I first brought him up on here. I knew I was right leading into the draft. I knew I was right when we made the pick. And I still know I was right. I was debating starting a thread about being so right today, but decided I'm going to wait until he's handed that OROY award in a few weeks to take my proper bow

It will be the week of the Super Bowl at the NFL Awards show. They were doing it on Saturday for a bit but think they've moved it up to the Thursday the week of the game in the last year or two if I remember correctly. There is a 0% chance that he won't be a finalist, so at least it will make tuning into the show worthwhile

I don't think any good HC candidate will have any interest in the Raiders unless that coach is absolutely in love with one of the QB's in this draft, and even then, I'm not sure they're taking that job. That is a team with very little going for it right now, on top of being in a division with Mahomes/Reid, Herbert/Harbaugh, Nix/Payton. The next closest division with a set up like that for the foreseeable future would probably be the NFC North, who even as good as they are, none of them are as good as any of those 3. You could say the Bills/Patriots with Allen/Maye is better set up than the NFCN, but even then, that's still just 2 teams, not 3 like with the AFC West. And that's before even factoring in all the distractions that come along with been in Vegas. I genuinely think the Raiders job is the worst in the entire NFL right now.

DraftKings certainly thinks so as they currently have him as the -800 favorite I think what plays in his favor is that while there are a few other players that in a blind resume had a better statistical output, particularly some of the RB's when you combine their rushing and receiving stats, none of them played a key role on their team for the entire season like T-Mac did for us with Jeanty being the exception. The problem for him is that he didn't live up to the pre-season hype he came in with, in addition to being on the worst team in the league this year. It very well could come down to how the voters view Bryce, who we all know is quite a polarizing player in the eyes of so many analysts. The worse they think Bryce was this year, the more of a feather in T-Mac's cap that becomes and probably helps him win over votes for being the only rookie to put up 1k yards this year. In a season with no clear cut run away winner, I think it will only help T-Mac that he was the #1 option in our offense for the entire season, the other rookies were role players for big chunks of the year, like Henderson and Harvey, or only started half-ish of the season like Dart and Shough.

It's going to be very interesting to see where Pitts ends up next year, but I'm not sure he's worth the risk. Sure he had a great year, but sports are littered with examples of guys who were complete busts of high picks, only to have a breakout season in their final year of their rookie deal, sign a big contract, and then go right back to being a bust. We still have way too many holes to take a swing on paying big money to a TE who is anything but a sure thing.

It’s tough to give it to a QB who only played half the season and didn’t even have 10 passing TDs. If he lead them to a win today to knock us out of the playoffs with a good passing gam, he might have had more of an argument, but without that, you gotta give it to the only rookie to go over 1k this year

Hoping that pick just locked up the OROY for T-Mac as well

Which means we have a chance at a winning season next year, as we all know if we finished 9-8, we'd have a 0% chance at it next year. This is the Panthers Way.

The ability for a basketball ref to alter a game vs a football ref is ridiculously significant. 2 or 3 cheap calls against the right player and the game is forever altered, not to mention in the NFL, refs have such specific assignments to where they can only alter so much of the game if they even wanted to. Absolute night and day when comparing the ability for a ref to put his finger on the scale with those two sports.

Yes, that non call was really bad, but unless there is a smoking gun someday showing a specific ref having wagerd on a game where they made a particularly bad call, I'll never be convinced that the league or refs are trying to determine who wins or loses games. Hell, I think there is a stronger argument to make that if the league were to try and dictate this game, they'd have wanted us to win so the division wasn't won by a team with a losing record and decided because of an outcome the next day amongst two teams who are both already eliminated from the playoffs.