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Or maybe this is their way of hoping the Texans will try and swap picks with us, by leaking this out there since it's known they like Young

Sign Chark and trade for Elijah Moore (I still don't really want Chark, but just thinking of having WRs on the team next year with the names of DJ and another of Moore, makes me chuckle) Then make Moore take #2 and give Chark #12

I think it's more the 2nd rounder next year when we already traded away our 1st. Not a fan of being down both of those picks, especially since we already traded our 2nd away in 2025 as well. I also think his time in Arizona is up, both sides know it, they don't have much leverage and I can't see a team giving up that much to get him, if someone was willing to give that much up, with the weak FA WR market this year, someone would have already made that trade with them by now.

Fair, and I've been beating the drum on needing a #1 WR for days. But I don't think he's the answer, I'd rather overspend a little bit to go after Hopkins, Sutton, Juedy, etc, than sign Chark. I just don't think he's much, if any, improvement over TMJ right now and if we draft a WR with our 2nd rounder, I think Chark would be our #3 this year. When our WR room is this bad, I don't see the value in signing someone who would possibly be our #3 right now.

I am all for trying to trade for Hopkins, but in no world am I giving them a 2nd and 3rd for him, just no

The guy played in a pass happy offense and only had 500 yards and 3 TDs, I know he missed some games, but that doesn't help make him more attractive, I honestly don't get why everyone wants him so badly if I'm being honest. I've seen people say that he has untapped potential, but 5 years into his career, hasn't been able to stay healthy and tap into that potential yet, so why do we want to trust him as our #1 for a rookie QB?!?!

I think Texans would be more likely and make the Top 2 picks who will both be QB's and likely starters play each other week 1. They did it with Jameis and Mariota Plus they've done two straight years of our opening game being a QB reasoned matchup against an AFC team (Darnold vs Jets and Baker vs Browns), so might as well make it 3 for 3.

Every owner in every sport has trusted the wrong person/people in charge with their franchise at one time or another, I can't fault an owner who screwed up their first ever hire, particularly given how often NFL coaches get turned over. Well... outside of the Rooney's that is, it's still baffling that they've only had 3 coaches in the last like 60 years, unheard of success rate. But just the fact that he was staying hands off while giving his hires time to see if they could make it work, is why I never turned on him, I thought that in itself was a good trait to see in an owner. You know someone like Snyder would have been in there after year 1 and making all the calls himself, that Tepper didn't was a big testament to how I think he'll be during his ownership of this franchise.

I've said the whole time that people were being too hard on him. Everyone wanted to have an owner that was hands off, hires his football people and let's them do their thing, which is exactly what he did. It sucks that it didn't work out the first few years, but beyond pushing them to be in on trades for Stafford and Watson, he's been a very hands off owner from the football side of things. His mistake was putting that trust in Rhule, you can be mad all you want at giving him one too many years, but that's not enough to make him a bad owner.

I hate seeing Schultz still out there and many teams running out of cap, he better sign a much bigger deal than we gave Hurst or it's going to be disappointing

They're in position to draft one of these 4 QBs, could even move up to #3 probably with minimal expense to make sure they get their pick of the second two. But instead they want to give up the 4th pick, another 1st, and then give a stupid massive contract to Lamar? Honestly if they don't believe in any of the QB's, they'd be better off drafting whichever one they don't want, sitting him all year "so he can learn" and then trade him and multiple firsts to move up next year and take a better prospect and get them on a rookie contract. Basically the same cost but saves them a ton of money and they don't have to take on an injury prone QB who hasn't finished the last 2 seasons healthy. Or just trade the pick this year for something good, draft to fill holes, suck next year, get the #1 pick and land Caleb.

I don't care how you get one, but you have to get a WR #1. You can't draft a rookie QB 1st overall and pay an RB 6.5 million and not give your top pick a #1 WR. I know we can't get a #1 for the same 6.5, but we could have used that plus a little more to have signed someone who could have fit the bill and then drafted an RB in the 3rd round to go along with a cheaper FA option. Again, I like landing Sanders, behind our OL he should be real good, and I don't hate the contract as long as we get a #1 WR this year, if we don't, I'm not going to be so thrilled about it.

Good deal pending getting a true #1 WR If we don't get a #1 it won't make sense, as we could have put the money towards a WR and drafted an RB in the 3rd or signed someone on a dirt cheap 1 year deal, like Foreman did. If we go into the season with TMJ or a 2nd round pick as the #1 WR, this won't look like a good deal anymore.

I just posted this in the other thread that was just started. With the signing of the guy from Denver just now, wonder if we'll look to maybe trade YGM and a 4th or 5th to Arizona for Hop

Been a great FA so far, but I'm worried we've spent too much money without addressing WR yet. We can't screw over the rookie QB with this current WR room, even getting one with the 2nd rounder isn't enough, we need a legitimate veteran in there.

Like the player, afraid the contract is going to be too big when there were solid cheaper options out there. I'll also be completely honest... I very much dislike the idea of paying any RB decent money 4 months after we traded CMC away, I understand getting the picks back, but I'm still angry about that trade, would have loved to give a rookie QB CMC to throw to as his safety valve.

There is a huge difference between performing at 100% and being so out of shape that you literally can't finish the drills. If he was just a bit sloppy out there and his times weren't great, sure, you could blame that on what's going on around him. But putting on almost 10 lbs in 2 weeks, knowing what is at stake, and then being THAT out of shape, that's extreme. I'm also someone who absolutely would fall apart mentally in his situation, so I'm not bashing him for that. But if I was in his situation, with his NFL career on the line, I'd at least be in shape enough to finish the drills and/or be aware enough that I wouldn't be able to finish them and would come up with some other excuse as to why I couldn't work out. Say you pulled a hamstring or twisted your ankle a few days ago in training, that's way better than not being able to finish the workout.

So..... what you're saying is that you want to draft a guy who is showing he can't get ready for the most important job interview of his life because he's too distracted by other things in his life. And you want to go out and give him millions of dollars and expect him to then be able to keep his mind focused on football at that point? Yea.... hard pass

Well now that Williams is off the market, I'd really like to see us go out and get Mattison

Vet minimum, sure... but he's not playing for the minimum

I agree on Stroud, but I don't think Young gets broken in year 1. I just don't see how Young can have a long career at his size, the hits are going to add up and he's going to break down at some point well before you'd like your #1 pick to break down. He'll be good for 2 or 3 years, but I think around the time he's starting that second contract, he's gonna be missing a lot of games every year.

It absolutely does when you're drafting #1 overall, you want to sign a backup that compliments who you're going to draft in one way or another. What that reasoning is what the staff needs to decide, but it's 100% a factor. That person you sign has to do so with the understanding of what the plan is or else it has the chance to blow up in your face if they're not okay with their role in the end. Are they signing with the expectation that they have a legitimate chance at starting Week 1? Are they signing with the understanding that they're the backup for the top pick Week 1? Are they signing with the expectation that they're going to be given the job for the full year pending injury?

Just saw the numbers on the Brissett contract are basically identical to what we gave Dalton, same guarantee but on a 1 year deal, which is more or less what the Dalton deal is anyways, we just did 2 years to spread out the cap hit. Makes me again think this means we're NOT taking Richardson, as any team that takes him, won't be starting him Week 1. If we already knew we needed a Week 1 starter, that would have been Brissett over Dalton, both a better player and also familiar with Reich and his system. Tells me that we signed Dalton purely as a backup and not a Week 1 starter. Means the pick has to be Stroud or Young and they already know that.