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Wouldn't have made a difference. He was barely used in 2017. Barely used in 2018 before Cam's season went down the drain in 2018. Samuel a fool if he signs with a team who has Shula at OC.

Clearly I'm in the minority, but I don't see what is so bad about this move. Unexpected, sure, but it probably shouldn't have been. He only played what, like 29% of the snaps last year? He's just not a good fit on the team with Brown and Roy, who will probably be getting even more snaps next year given the year of experience under their belt. If you play Kerr you're either taking Brown off the field (in most cases) or you are running with 2 guys who are both best suited to play the nose/1-tech. Rhule clearly loves versatility. I'm sure he'd rather replace Kerr on the roster with someone who can more consistently push the pocket (not that Kerr didn't at times last year, but he's also about to be 31). Ultimately this isn't that big of a deal. A replaceable player who was released because his role o the team was redundant.

Lol how is he 0-3 in FA when season hasn’t even started yet

Can’t keep all 3. Anderson is the oldest

We'll structure the contract in a way where the cap hit is low this year. This will mean we are moving on from Robby Anderson after 2021. Curtis is back

Curtis Samuel is coming back Trust me on this.

I like this.

Texans and Chiefs traded future 1st round picks to trade up for Watson and Mahomes respectively.

Cam was very good in 2017 but I wouldn't describe what he was doing as ripping it lol his arm by that Eagles game was already looking kinda bad

No point in asking. A coach or GM is not allowed to talk about another player on another team. The most you could ask is if the team is looking to acquire a new QB.

I literally said I agree with the rookie scale. I was just adding that there are ways to improve it.

I'm not saying I want Jones at #8, but having him over Lance is not nearly as outlandish as some of you are making it. Jones mechanically is so far ahead of Lance it isn't even funny. Lance has a higher upside but I'd argue Jones' floor is a lot higher than Lance's. With Lance, you truly just don't even know what you are getting over a very athletic QB.

I agree but it sucks that the franchise tag is still a thing. A player could get hit with the 5th-year option and a franchise tag (potentially 2-3x but unlikely) before being able to negotiate a contract or hit the open market. I get why the current players wouldn't care about guys not in the league yet, but wish they could have negotiated something better. I think making it where it is a 3-year deal and the 4th year is the option year works out for both the player and the team. And make it where you can only be tagged once. That still lets a team hold onto a player for at least 5 years if they can't negotiate a contract, but eliminates the possibility of getting tagged more than once and guarantees you hit the open market (if you so choose) after 5 years in the NFL as opposed to potentially 6 or more.

Sucks, but at least he could admit to it. Ish happens. Tbh though I never expected much from him. Was always a weirdly hyped signing IMO.

Yeah I never understood why there was 1st round talk around him (and explains why he fell out of the 1st). He was so physically limited and really all he did was throw the ball to 2 baller receivers in Floyd and Tate. The guy had the lowest of low ceilings. I don't think it was ever an issue of him not working hard or him not understanding the game. He was just baaaaaaaaad and skittish. Mac Jones if he works out will at least be a solid starting QB.

I actually agree, the more I watch Jones, the more I'm impressed by his pocket movement and awareness. However the issue I have is you just didn't see him do it a lot when the pocket was collapsing as fast as it will in the NFL, even behind a good OL. So you are projecting a bit on if his internal clock will remain as good. I think he'd be a good pick for the Saints. They have a great OL and if Jones has to play early, he'll need it. Honestly the more I watch the more I get what people see in him. But I still think his path to success is just a lot narrower than other guys, and that is what I have a big problem with about him.

I'd prefer Wilson, but would definitely be cool with trading up for Justin Fields. I think he's going to be a playmaker from Day 1. He'll have his struggles but really the issues I see are just coaching him up related. Nothing is a guarantee but like I said in another thread, he reminds me so much of Deshaun Watson.

I just hate how boring it was to watch him play. I wouldn't have been as frustrated as I was if it was just bad QB play. We all expected to suck this year anyway. But man Bridgewater really made it hard to watch our games. When it came to throwing the ball he was gutless. Just so conservative and weak-armed. I mean how do you have 4 1,000 YFS players and yet engineer such a low-scoring offense? That is why it infuriates me when people think Brady deserves blame. Absolute BS. Just watch the games. He did such an amazing job putting players in the best position possible (I like Samuel and yes he just needed more opportunities but this was still by far his best year and it was under Brady; same with Anderson and same with Davis, guys had career years here) and got everyone involved as best he could. Bridgewater was just bad. Dude can't play.

Brees can’t scramble but I don’t think I would call him immobile. His pocket movement has always been incredible.

Lol there is so much that is false in here.

Never said he was, but that doesn’t mean he was some extremely gifted QB either. He benefited from a wide-open offensive spread system and Mike Evans. He was a good college playmaker but you are wrong if you think the only thing he was lacking is attitude.

What is funny about it? Or why do you disagree? He had a solid arm and solid running ability for a QB. But he wasn’t gifted enough to be a consistent runner in NFL, and his arm relative to other NFL QBs was nothing special. He was also very undersized. Manziel fell for more reasons than just his attitude. Even if he was a hard worker I don’t think he works out because he wasn’t that good of a prospect.

Manziel was not that physically talented.

LMFAO what lol I literally laughed out loud

Too bad Jeff Otah's knees couldn't hold up. Some people have tried calling him lazy but I don't think you can blame a 330-pound mammoth for not being able to overcome persistent knee problems. Otah in 2008 was an absolute beast though. He was a future All-Pro. On a separate note... could ya'll imagine that 2008 and 2009 offense with a QB other than Jake Delhomme? Good lord. Cam Newton showed up to the Panthers 3-2 years too late. 2008/2009 definitely had to be the last time where you could sit back and say the Panthers fielded a great OL (Gross-Wharton-Kalil-Vincent-Otah... my god). Smith was in his prime. Moose was still very, very good. Hoover was the best blocking FB in the game. Williams, Stewart... man those 2008 and 2009 teams doesn't get talked about enough when it comes to miss opportunities. All we had to do was not commit to washed Jake Delhomme. I mean okay in 2008 I get it, Delhomme played well in '07 before his injury and obviously we didn't know how bad he'd get. But in 2009 we did our team a disservice. That team was so good in 2009 all we needed was a decent QB. Matt Moore would have taken us to the playoffs for sure.