Mage

What are all these examples of players who were given an "overboard" amount of praise in public only to be cut after? Cam Newton and who else?

How does publicly telling the media that your OC didn't do a good job improve the football team?

This doesn't make any sense. You initially stated that the problem with Matt Rhule is that in press conferences, he gives out praise to players that behind the scenes, he does not mean. Why would a player prefer their coach to throw them under the bus to the media? But then in the post I just quoted, you seem to be implying that Rhule is intentionally saying false, negative things about his players. What is an example of Matt Rhule saying outright false, negative things about his players? I'm actually very curious. You are a smart guy. But I have no clue what you are getting at, because you are saying two different things. The first post you said Rhule was giving too much praise in press conferences that he didn't mean... I'm not sure in what rationale you think players would prefer to get thrown under the bus in public.

And? Please explain to me why that matters? It's a press conference. Of course the things he says to the media aren't always going to be how things play out in reality. You are making a problem out of something that in the grand scheme of things, really doesn't matter. I seriously doubt any player is even listening to Rhule's press conferences, much less caring about anything he has to say. Press conferences and what a coach says in them literally doesn't matter. It is for entertainment/media purposes, point blank. It amazes me how much stock ya'll keep trying to put into something that has nothing to do with the product on the football field.

Every HC's press conference is filled with coach-speak. If people want to hate Rhule that is okay. But it blows my mind how much people think what a coach says in a press conference matters. Newsflash: Go watch all 32 HC post-game talks. They all more or less say the same thing. Hell the GOAT coach Belichick is the KING of Coach Speak. No player gives a crap about what Rhule is saying at a press conference. It literally doesn't matter.

It is way too early to write Derrick Brown off. It takes time for DTs to develop unless they are among the very elite. Cameron Heyward is an All-Pro and he didn't even start his first two years. Brown will be fine. He showed way too much promise last year, he's just in a slump right now. But the guy is 23 years old w/ incredible physical talent and a very hard worker. Let's just pump the brakes.

The run defense vs well coached lines is horrendous. Especially vs zone runs. WFT ate us up on them all day. That is what hurt our defense the most

God I wish we had Horn still. Gilmore and Horn on the outside? SHEESH.

Who is blaming Cam? Morons

caaaaaaaaaaaaaam oh caaaam

I am willing to guarantee that the Panthers would not be 5-5 right now with Ron Rivera, unless he was able to bring McDermott back as DC.

They've lost their last 2 games to Trevor Sieman and Taylor Heinicke.

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but it is worth considering that we haven't had our bye week yet. We could win the next 2 games and still be 2 games behind Tampa coming out of our bye.

Nobody is downplaying it, but the most anticipated? It definitely doesn't beat out a home playoff game lol As far as the regular season, it is up there but hard to say it is the most anticipated. 2013 vs Saints in Week 16 and 2008 in Week 14 vs Tampa Bay come to mind.

Yea, Donte's always been extremely willing in run support. Not sure why there is a narrative that he wasn't. Donte's problem was consistency, like you said, and always trying to gamble. I think we are going to fight hard to keep him. Rhule seems to love the guy.

Chinn is way better in coverage than he was last year.

All it takes is common sense and context clues to know what "say less" means. Anyone who acts as if they can't understand the meaning, is acting purposely obtuse.

We can't just be posting topic titles like this all willy nilly about our best player.

Washington's defense is pretty bad this year too. 28th in points allowed. IMO Rivera is still a good defensive mind, but he chooses the WORST coordinators. Rivera should just take control over defensive play-calling. The only DC he's ever hired that was good is McDermott. Wilks was okay, not good but not quite as bad as a few people think. Del Rio (in Washington) is bad and bland. And Washington... my goodness.

I love Jaycee Horn, gonna be an All-Pro without a doubt he's that skilled, but if this team had Stafford... man. I think we'd be a top 3 seed right now. I actually think we're a lot similar to the Rams. Their offensive line is better, but Stafford can make it work. Moore and Anderson would be lighting it up with Stafford.

I've said it several times. Outside of the QB position (which yes, is important, and is a huge black mark they need to fix), Rhule has done a great job building this team since he got here. I really think people on here can be prisoners of the moment and forget the kind of disarray this team was in when he got here. Newton was coming off two injury-plagued seasons. And post-Steelers game in 2018, his arm was completely shot and to be frank he looked bad. Olsen was donezo. TD was donezo. Defense was not only bad, but old as hell. Burns, Shaq, Donte, and Carter are the only 4 people left from that defense. In 2019, we allowed 29 PPG. In 2020, we allowed 25th PPG (which was SOOO much better than anyone expected given the personnel, and the defense got stronger and stronger every week). This year, we are allowing 19 PPG. Yes we need to correct the QB position. And we've got to make an effort to get a long-term solution at LT, although maybe Brady can be that down the road. But look at the game yesterday. QB-aside, the Panthers > Cardinals. I think we need to not let Rhule be the one to solely decide our QBs going forward. Leave that to the GM and talent evaluators - it isn't like we don't have a good group of them ie Pat Stewart. As long as that is the case, I have full confidence in Rhule and the FO. LIS, we aren't far off. We just need to find that guy at QB. We're just as good everywhere else on our roster as most other teams.

I agree with this. I think people look at letting Cam go the wrong way. It wasn't necessarily letting him go that was the problem. It was the moves we made after (Teddy, Sam) that were the issue. We absolutely should have stuck with Kyle Allen, or signed a vet QB to a cheap 1 year deal (ala what WFT did with Fitz). Tank the season. Instead we overly-committed to an average at best QB and a bad QB. I didn't want Cam to get released back then, but I understood the rationale. Never understood the Teddy signing. Somewhat understood trading for Sam, but never understood picking up his 5th year option.

PJ Walker cheeks

Why was Darnold starting

Dude I've never been more grateful of Cam Newton than I am right now What a star Never let him leave us again