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Yeah, I think he makes a lot of sense. Could be a solid pickup at/around 114 or 132. That's the optimal range with this RB class unless we REALLY like a guy.

We have no home run threat on this offense and I don't trust Hubbard as our backup. Staley & Brown have both referenced committee approaches and our starter has a Kareem Hunt-Browns level contract. So from my vantage point, we are entirely in position to upgrade, but it's not a must. We've met with Charbonnet, Kendre Miller & Zach Evans so it's entirely possible. I could honestly see us landing ANY RB type in this group whether it be a hard-nosed runner like Roschon Johnson to compliment, an all-around like DeWayne McBride, or a home run threat like Abanikanda. Wouldn't be opposed to a Peoples or Tucker later. Plenty of options. Oh and Tyjae Spears is my pipe dream but I won't build expectations for him and get let down. He's my fave in the draft by far.

If HOU is serious about landing Anderson or Wilson at 2, they're gonna push QBs down a hair. Puts ATL in prime position to trade down if Stroud (or even Levis) is available. Houston may want to jump the Titans to the grab the last of the top-4 remaining. ATL gains more ammo to surround Ridder, Houston still lands a QB. Not that I want them to succeed but if they play their cards right, could be in good shape.

An added prospect fit that could happen per some reports/buzz: Tucker Kraft & Sam LaPorta TE - Bengals, R2 They've hosted both and apparently are very high on them, potentially have their sights on them instead of Kincaid or Mayer at 28. I don't think they need to force anything with their position in R1. R1--I could see Gibbs (as mocked), DB, OL, or even DL if a rusher presents himself.

Due diligence. My hunch is that they're real contenders for Bijan. If they're committed to Ridder, they need to give him weapons, oh and at some point post-1998, finally put together a decent defensive front.

Just showcasing who it could’ve likely been. You ageist! Jk

Mingo is being repeated in the thread, but he was reported visiting early April. Fitt said "last week". Last week was Charlie Jones and Derius Davis. That being said, Mingo could be great, but for who Fitt was talking about, after checking, it is Jones, Davis, or an unreported prospect visit.

Yep. This may have been Charlie Jones. Interesting prospect, transferred from Iowa (good for him, awful passing game there). I've honestly been looking past the dude...really under the radar in sports media. NCAA Receiving Leaders in 2022 were: (1) Tank Dell (2) Charlie Jones (3) Rashee Rice In 2022: 110 rec, 1,361 yards, 12 tds, 12.4 ypr Combine: 4.43 Aiden O'Connell had a QBR of 119.0 when throwing to him. Size: 5'11 3/4, 175 lbs https://www.nfl.com/prospects/charlie-jones/32004a4f-4e16-0287-5859-a7165d1cc115 Seems like he interviews well and has a chip on the shoulder style.

If they're being accurate about specifically visited last week, I re-checked and I am only finding 2 reported visits: Derius Davis Charlie Jones -- Mingo and Smith-Njigba were over a week ago. Scott was reported having a meeting with us, but digging in, don't think it was a private-30.

Re: this comment I did check some stuff out and historic trades. It's s 9 spot move from 39 to 48. But where we gain is moving up 12 in the next round from 93 to 81 and them adding on a 5th to sweeten. I think we could squeeze a 4th, but that'd give them a big gap mid-draft, so could be a 39+93 for 48+81 swap, and they add on a future/24' 3rd (highest I could see)

Robinson was had with a 7th rounder swap. A near equal deal to what we did for Zane. Wow

I will say, I see Hooker fitting with a lot more teams than Levis right now so it could very well happen. Overall, even if there is some hesitation with Levis, I see ~TB/19 to MIN/24 is his floor for dropping. Hooker could end up as high as the teens (to the Texans?) so Hooker could possibly go before. That being said, there's A LOT of rumors this time of year. I will say, anyone who saw that Bama-TEN game & watched Hooker progress year by year from his sophomore season at VT to last year at TEN should know what he's capable of. Age be damned, if he can play, he can play. He has great downfield placement, got the legs, size, even if the arm isn't Levis-level, he's got game. My biggest BS meter goes off w/ the idea multiple QBs go in a row at the top. This is not a class that goes 1-3. Fits: Young - Panthers=as good as done Stroud - Colts, Raiders Richardson - Seahawks, Raiders, Vikings (Just don't see the Texans or Titans swinging for him) Hooker - Raiders, Texans, Rams, Tampa Bay Levis - Titans, Tampa Bay my 2 cents

I would have no problem with that if I didn't project him to Dallas at 26 in Round 1.

I will say, the Falcons scenario in my mock is one I hope doesn't happen. This gives them Bijan, Downs, & K White. They could put themselves in really nice position if someone wants to move up for Levis or AR (if they are available) at 8. Obvious candidates being HOU, TEN, & TB.

I think he's solidly a 1st rounder per what I've been seeing. Could be as high as LAC.

If they are in fact taking a committee approach as they stressed in pressers, I'm just unsure if you want to hand Hubbard ~15-20%-ish of offensive snaps when you can get a clear upgrade. Hubbard is currently slotted into a spot that will have gameday action. I'd seek an upgrade if one presents itself via BPA.

If Gibbs is there at 39, you run to that damn podium. I think we have more of an impact slot to fill at RB over TE & WR when you consider who may actually get productive regular season snaps. Brown comes from committee environments and Reich had that in Philly. Just got lucky with Taylor but they're all committee type approaches.

Avila could definitely be in play here, but I just like Brents for us. I'm also low-key a Cody Mauch fan, but I think there's a secondary need with how Evero uses NBs that if a guy on our value charts is there, that takes slight priority over filler RG (or) swing tackle depth.

I'd say hard pass giving up a 3rd and having no pick from #25 until #114 with even less capital this year AND next. Next draft would be bare bones 2, 4, 5, & 6. I'd rather target a minor trade up for Johnston or Flowers if they are there early 30s. But honestly, I'm not so sure I want any of them THAT badly over what Tillman, Mingo, Scott, Hutchinson, Wilson, Reed etc. could give us without giving anything up.

In respect to the pressers today, they were trying to imply the front-7 is an area to be addressed without much word on the secondary, which I find could be a misdirect. They did however reaffirm multiple times that the length & speed combo with high football IQ is what they look for. For me, that's Brents to a tee at DB, who we've met with. At EDGE, that would be Will McDonald IV, BJ Ojulari, Derrick Hall as well. Daiyan Henley & Dorian Williams are two LBs who has the length. A bit leaner but could definitely be targets.

Hoping to make this less just posting mocks my man. Appreciate the responses though

Could've also been Charlie Jones who has a scrappy fun personality. Derius Davis came in last week as well: https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/04/10/2023-nfl-draft-panthers-tcu-wr-derius-davis-top-30-visit/ We also met with Smith-Njigba but that was prior to last week I believe.

I think teams REALLY like Tyler Scott. That kid has got some mad skills. The speed they speak to, can pretty much be slotted in immediately. His 33rd team interview kind of tells me it was him, the dude is cool as hell.

Oooh. We met with Mingo & Scott last week. Could've been who Scott was talking about when he said they met with a receiver last week who stood out. Nice.

It's kind of why I added perceived reaches with my late rounders, to account for me being a bit conservative in the trade eval. Now, if we can pull off lets say a 39 & 114 for 48 & 81 swap, I'd be ALL over that. Then, we're looking at... 1-Bryce Young 2-48-Julius Brents 3-81-Rashee Rice 3-93 - This could be where there's a more significant upgrade than KJ Henry. Byron Young EDGE, Schoonmaker at TE, McBride RB, some nice possibilities. 4-132 - TE/OL/RBs galore IMO 5-145 - TE/OL/RB I just like this slight trade down idea. But even if it's a stay put at 39, I'd honestly take Brents in this scenario. Hyatt or Campbell could get the edge, but it's close for me.