Bear Hands

I have no idea, not being that serious.

Yes. That’s why I said it’d be great to grab offensive weapons in the draft. Go BOWA strategy if we land a guy like Steichen. Smith 1st rounder, AJ Brown-2nd rounder, Goedert 2nd rounder. Just having fun tonight thinking about random scenarios.

Still want a QB high though hehe

Damn… Shane, come to Charlotte my dude! What they’ve done with AJ, Smith, & Goedert makes me wanna get Quinten and Kincaid to join DJ. With that offense, he could make a McKee or freaking Clayton Tune look the part.

I’m liking what Steichen is cooking

Hey now let me keep dreaming

Yeaaaahh. I think he’s tough as hell but that’s a broken ankle. Substantial sprain at the best. Yikes

Maybe he got over the yips. First game is the one that may be a blowout, but never know, Jags could surprise. 3 of the 4 games look to be good ones.

After the Super Bowl in 09', he made it the conference championship 1 time (2018) 1 conf champ appearance in 11 years with Brees in his prime.

What's proven? That Brees and Payton work well together? Sure. How does Payton do with a new guy? And in a changing NFL landscape? There's still some pretty major risk, add in giving up big draft capital.

Sometimes a coach & QB just click and it's impossible to duplicate it for either side. Curious to who Peyton thinks could be his next partner in the current QB landscape. It's pretty icky. For some reason, could see him having an interest in Derek Carr though. He seems like a guy that could really do well in his system. Here's a wild scenario: HOU gets Payton, HOU trades (Using Pick 12) and gets their 2nd Carr, they're able to use Pick 2 on Anderson or Carter. 1-Bears-Anderson 2-HOU-Carter We suddenly have a much better chance at a top QB...

It's hard to really know since Brees was never out for enough time during Payton's entire HC career to really see if this is true. Could've just been a really good HC-QB marriage where neither could have really done what they accomplished together on their own. Takes two to tango.

If we pass on a QB, Quinten and Addison, that better be a DROY candidate, All-Pro level talent, hopefully on the DL given the importance and investment we already have in our secondary. This CB group in this draft seems like a very crowded, really solid, but no clear cut top guy. Would absolutely hate to tilt the balance of our positional investments. I would much prefer Q Johnson in this scenario. We have some major investments already. Horn, Woods, & Jackson. Not factoring in that Chinn will need a new contract soon, we invested our 3rd rounder last year in CJ. That's 29 million annual between contracted guys in 24' in our secondary alone. Just seems like a move that gets us nowhere both short term and long term.

It's going to be a fun game. Said it elsewhere, high likelihood our next HC is calling plays in this one.

I'm firmly on the Steichen or Kafka bus right now. I'll try my best to be excited if it's Moore, Dorsey or Reich. Still really unsure about retaining Wilks & highly doubt Evero or Caldwell is happening. It's pretty much a wait and see at this point. Giants-Eagles could likely have our next HC on the sidelines.

It’s shaping up to be a very good TE draft but certain teams and peeps don’t value them highly. We’ll see. I guess it will Al depend on our new HC and scheme. A guy to keep tabs on is Schoonmaker as a late 2nd to 3rd rounder. He’s got skills.

I've got a few names, some mentioned: Luke Musgrave TE, Dalton Kincaid TE, Drew Sanders LB, Jack Campbell LB, Rashee Rice WR, Josh Downs WR, Zay Flowers WR. I really like all of them. Later in the second, Daiyan Henley LB WSU with that SF 2nd or Mike Morris DE Michigan has a lot of upside. Zach Charbonnet is my fave RB, could be that late second or our 3rd.

I'd imagine a bit of both. Given they barely knew each other before NYG, it at the least shows he's able to fold into a staff and implement very well. The baseline assumptions are strong with him.

All I'll say is the Giants v. Eagles game should be fun because I think it's likely our next coach is calling plays in it. Which side of the field that dude is on is TBD.

All I've seen is that Reich impressed via Sheena Quick. No word on how Steichen was received via vid conference, but I think we're following up with an in-person for him if I recall. Didn't hear anything on Caldwell (wouldn't put too much stock in that) or Evero. Kafka's interview on Sunday may be once they're officially out of contention (or) it could be pushed if they win. If the latter is the case, Steichen could get flown in sooner than expected. If the former is and it goes well, we could hear news early next week.

Now we're going full Goldblum

Thanks for making this a thread. It’s a great read. Something I like is that he doesn’t carry a lot of extra. Checking out interviews and mic’d up bits, you’ll see he doesn’t have this rah-rah personality or come across either overly tough nosed, some specialty program creator, or trying to act like some grand offensive chess wizard. The article backs this up, just seems like a smart and get sh*t done type. No extra. Just very even keel, sound, and seems to carry himself in a way that seems much more seasoned and a guy who simply loves coaching and scheming. Not trying to self market or fluff or give off a certain bravado. The anti-Rhule.

Digging into the remaining to get excited again (and hopefully not let down haha): This Mike Kafka has seemingly had a super fast rise out of nowhere, but a recent Athletic article has some great insight to it all; someone else linked this earlier as well: https://theathletic.com/4104453/2023/01/19/giants-mike-kafka-nfl-head-coach-candidate/ In watching clips of him, he has a very dry, no "extra" style to him whether in pressers, talking about his coaching & whatnot. Seems very even keel, straight shooter which is like the exact opposite of Rhule. It could be something I see Fitt, Tepper, & Morgan digging. No particular bravado, just looks engaged and someone who wants to get sh*t done. I like that. It doesn't with spectacle and he's not some rah-rah type. Good early track record. It would be a big swing at someone with his limited experience but I'm liking what I'm finding. To do what he did this year for a team with virtually no wide receiver room, a struggling QB in his final year of a rookie deal, a still developing OL, and really only Barkley as the for-sure thing, is impressive. It sounds like he was also much more intertwined in Mahomes development than I knew. I thought he came in after Mahomes was already a star, but it sounds like he had a nice impact on Pat early on. Very interesting guy. Would not be mad one bit, and I can see him impressing. This is his latest midst the HC interviews. He seems much more seasoned than some of these other young guys like B Johnson and Moore. Interesting cat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDSZM7j1GS4&ab_channel=NewYorkGiants

He was given a bad hand in Arizona, but that shouldn't discount looking at what happened that may be causes for concern on his end. If anything it just masked deficiencies since it sounds like we're essentially saying that year is voided from his resume. He did seem better as our interim in the HC spot after being out of football and then in Missouri. I give the guy mad credit, but again, his closest working relationship in the league is with Ron. Can we please not? Gonna have to agree to disagree here. I'm not sold on what you're selling. Not seeing the case outside of excuses. AZ-not his fault, CLE-not his fault, this year-he had us competing, but PIT, BAL, CIN--not his fault. He was on board so was the man to give this nosedive a few nice punches on the way down to a soft landing. Doesn't mean he's suddenly the best captain, he was the best given the circumstance. Now's the time to broaden the field and compare him to the rest.