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And people in here got upset when I said our depth sucks. We’re seeing it on the OL and on D. We’ve traded away so many picks it’s ridiculous and none of those trades have worked out. We lost so many vets after 2019 and our drafts/trades left us razor thin. Wilks got a bit lucky health wise last year. The only injuries we had were Horn, which cost us the Tampa loss, and Corbett/BC the last week. We haven’t been as lucky this year so our terrible GMing has a huge spotlight on it now. We weren’t a QB away so that trade was likely the wrong move. Take Jalen Carter, take a TE like La Porta (small trade up) or Musgrave with the Rams 2nd, keep CMC and Moore and trade Burns last year so you have 2 extra firsts. I don’t think we’d have the top pick anymore with say Dalton, but we’d have 2 1sts in 2024 and 2 1sts in 2025. I would have let Fitterer go last year so maybe we’d have one of the good young coordinators as a coach instead and a competent GM.
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I’ve thought about that. If Fields improves enough, they can trade the Williams pick for 3 1sts and a 2nd (ours was 2 1sts, DJ and two 2nds). The trade of Young will have netted them 3 extra 1sts (they started with 1 and used it), 3 extra 2nds and DJ Moore. If they draft well, they could completely change their team with 4 or more plus starters including a couple elite guys to go with Moore and maybe Harrison Jr.
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I don’t know why people keep saying that. He got loose (probably forgotten or DC said don’t worry about him) on a couple long passes but we finished 4-2 and he averaged something like 2 catches for 20 yards each game, basically not contributing to the wins. Devin Funchess’ was far more valuable and contributed way more than TMJ has so far.
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56-21 final, but we will be down 49-7 before they start playing soft and let us score a couple times in the 4th. Hill will have 170-2 TDs
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We won’t know that for a while or ever TBH. I do know that all the other number 1 picks that had bad starts did not have Bryce’s physical limitations so it’s certainly not a given that he turns into Peyton Manning. I hope he does but we still need a real GM and probably better coaching that may not be on the current staff.
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Me too. I was absolutely worried about Bryce not having the physical tools but I’ve been wanted a rookie stud so bad since we didn’t tank in 2000 and went through a carousel of shitty QBs. I thought we had plenty of experience to develop a QB even if Reich wasn’t my first choice. I definitely don’t feel good anymore. I will say that I’ve been 100% right about the tank approach/the draft/not wanting Hurney 2.0 to stay/not wanting Fitterer to stay. So many obvious things that we, the huddle draftniks, saw that our so called GMs did not see and fuged up draft after draft. I know as a casual draft tan, I would have a much deeper and better team right now if I was the GM and I don’t care what the you aren’t an NFL employee people say. They were wrong.
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Same as that drive against NO where they went soft as well with a 2 TD lead late. I’m not going to say it wasn’t nice to see completions and scores but we were down 4 scores in the 4th quarter and it was clear Detroit was sitting back.
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Just like a lot of limited play guys. If he’s starting like Sanders, he’s getting stuffed a lot more as well. Sanders has not been good this year but some of that is the D being ready for runs where Hubbard wouldn’t do any better. Sorry, but Hubbard is a backup, not an NFL starter. He’s not a bad player but he’s also not our answer at RB.
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Hubbard is a backup. He’s not a solid starter. We should have just done what every other team was doing. Sign a cheap rookie in the 3rd or 4th or trade a low pick like a 4th for a guy like Swift. There were two RBs drafted right after DJ Johnson. Achane and Spears. I don’t know why we do things the opposite of everyone else and always seem to do it wrong.
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Where’d all the Fitterer supporters go? I know there were lots of them last year and this off-season. The sooner he’s gone the better. I can’t think of a worse drafter and trader. I still never got an answer from his most ardent supporters on what he ever did that was a great move. I’ve got a list a mile long on mistakes including some killers.
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What would you give up to draft Marvin Harrison Jr.
WhoKnows replied to CBird's topic in Carolina Panthers
It’s sad but we literally don’t. No 1st this year, which likely would have been him or Caleb Williams and no 2nd next year. -
Trapasso: Young's first few starts are concerning
WhoKnows replied to top dawg's topic in Carolina Panthers
That last interception was just awful. Can’t see the potential CB coming back in front and just plain not having the NFL zip to get it to your guy first. The amount of picks we’ve given up to get to where we are at makes me sick as well. We gutted the team and we are the worst team in the NFL. SMH, the idiots in charge are way worse than we thought. I always hated the way we threw picks away and I don’t care that Fitt would have screwed rgen up anyway. He should have gone with Rhule just like many of us said. -
Phenomenal deal for us or for the other team? We have had plenty of the latter lately. Bears are extremely happy. 49ers are over the moon happy. Jets were ecstatic with their haul. Jax was happy to get a day 2 for their failed draft pick.
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Reich wants to simplify playbook for Bryce
WhoKnows replied to mc52beast's topic in Carolina Panthers
SMH. After the BS we were fed in preseason, this is amazing. All you the preseason doesn’t matter guys were completely wrong. Young should have been playing tons more snaps. Our vanilla poo hasn’t fooled anyone but to basically say that Young has regressed means that we screwed up when we barely played him in the preseason when he had gobs of opportunities to learn. Yes, he’s regressed. We were told that he was making all the OL calls and that he was soaking in everything so fast that they gave him more. Either those were all lies or Reich is just plain terrible. -
SMH, it’s a joke that he’ll be way better when he leaves us. Also, he really won’t be cheap per game in the end. He’s basically played 1 year out of 3. Even if healthy year 4 and year 5 (5th year option), we’ll have played him about $11M per healthy year. If he never gets hurt his rookie deal and 5th year would be about $6M a year.
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Still amazing that the Bears gave away pick 32 for Claypool only to give him away a year later for moving their 2025 7th to a 6th.
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It’s not even that, it’s a swap of 6th for 7th so Miami in two drafts will just move down a level. Heck, it’s likely that the Dolphins 6th is late in the round and the Bears are early in the round.
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Panthers GMs Draft History After Round 1 (Analysis)
WhoKnows replied to Jay Roosevelt's topic in Carolina Panthers
@Jay Roosevelt Do your numbers include all the picks we traded away? I know Hurney and Gettleman did have an occasional trade up but they never did as many trade ups as well as trading draft picks for vets, which makes no sense for a team with a max of 7 wins in 6 years. -
Panthers GMs Draft History After Round 1 (Analysis)
WhoKnows replied to Jay Roosevelt's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah, he certainly hasn’t duplicated Schneider’s success, especially at QB where Schneider was the guy fighting for Wilson. Maybe Scott thought that Carrol was his Wilson. -
Panthers GMs Draft History After Round 1 (Analysis)
WhoKnows replied to Jay Roosevelt's topic in Carolina Panthers
It was the 6th, and there was a day 2 graded G sitting there who is now starting for KC right next to the best young C in the NFL who we should have drafted over TMJ. We had a poo OL at that point. You take every higher ceiling risk at OL in day 3 over any other position considering our OL issues. So bad. -
Jeudy is the most realistic option says PFF (& bye-bye to Burns)
WhoKnows replied to top dawg's topic in Carolina Panthers
I’ve been on the tank train since Lawrence. It was so obvious what we needed to do. I was told we can’t do that and it never works, just have to trust that the FO will do the right thing. Those same people seem to be missing now as we are now the worst team in the league and the most talented player we would have had will be playing for the Bears alongside Moore. -
Jeudy is the most realistic option says PFF (& bye-bye to Burns)
WhoKnows replied to top dawg's topic in Carolina Panthers
This is what worries me. Pick 36 (a good rookie TD) and two more 1sts we turn down but we do Jeudy or some other non-elite WR for Burns? FML, time to root for the Bills again and CMC/DJ. -
Why would he take the job? It sure seemed obvious we were going for a rookie after years of vets not working out. Heck add in Frank’s retreads and that’s 6 vets that did nothing but lose.
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JFC, the CYA already happening now is ridiculous. Man, it’s really a huge kick in the nuts to us fans watching what we all knew were mistakes. Tepper was a fan of Fields as we’ve heard but he didn’t make anything happen. I don’t think he’s done a good job of retaining and hiring but I don’t believe for a second that Frank didn’t have a hand in the decision. We heard how Scott and Frank said the same name before and after all their evaluations.