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Even if he did, our current pick based on the Rams winning is pick 58. If the Rams bear the Eagles, welp we are pick 61+. Feels like watching our CMC draft picks get worse and worse every week SF won.

It’s amazing how often a we’ve repeated the same mistakes. Projects, injuries, reaching, drafting to the weakness of a draft not the strength and just plain poor scouting. This draft has to be a real good draft. Not just starters that are below average or wouldn’t start elsewhere, but actual above average starters like McConkey and Frazier and others we passed on seem to be. Somehow Young has changed but that’s not enough when your D gives up 146 points in the last 4 games so you have to go to two OTs when you scored 30 and 38 in regulation.

Just pointed out that Coleman was far more productive because he only had half the targets. Your first line compared Legette to Coleman. Coleman is a typical rookie. I’d be happy with Legette’s production in a vacuum, but it kind of reminds me a bit of TMJ where people were surprised that he had as many snaps as he did and people excused his production by saying he needed more opportunity when he was our WR2. I wasn’t really even arguing. I saw two posts using other WRs as examples of why Legette was solid and I wanted to add some comments. Legette has a lot of work to do and I really hope he takes the next step but he had better stats than actual production/effectiveness.

I’m with you on the drafting. Our 2024 draft feels like the same as Scotty and that’s not good for the future. We have to blow away the draft. I mean, do you think any team would trade their 1st through 4th for our picks?

Just an FYI for Coleman and Franklin, they were not their team’s #1 target. While we may think Coker and Thielen were better, hint they were, Legette out-snapped them by 50% and sizably out-targeted both of them. He just produced Mingo like production per target so it seemed like he was the 3rd target when he actually led our WRs in snaps and targets by a good amount. Coleman was 3rd in targets on the Bills and had half the targets that Legette had and his ypt was 9.8 to Legette’s 5.5. Franklin was 3rd in targets but he had a Legette/Mingo level of 5.0 ypt. That said, Franklin was a 4th round pick, not a 1st round pick. Sorry to both of you, but production wise, Legette had a bad season and produced like a 4th rounder. McConkey absolutely should have been our pick. All we can do is hope that somehow Legette improves a lot and doesn’t end up just like Mingo and TMJ.

Imagine if we just took Brandon Fiske instead of trading him to the Rams. 8.5 sacks for a rookie DT seems pretty good. That Rams’ 2nd has gone from top 5 to bottom 8 since the early games and Fiske is part of the reason. Reminds me of the CMC trade where we thought we might be getting top half of the round picks only to get the 31st pick of each round, significantly devaluing the trade. We on the other hand think we are giving up late round picks for Darnold and CJ Henderson and Young, but they all end up top 5 or so picks. We are one of the worst drafting and trading teams around.

I didn’t watch but as an Aaron Jones fantasy owner, the lack of dump offs was astounding. I’m not sure it’s just Darnold because Jones and Akers had 6 total targets and 3 of those were on the last two drives late in the 4th quarter. Seems like O’Connell is adverse to calling screen plays. I always thought that screens were meant to slow down the rush. If your RBs have 3 targets for less than 10 yards before the game is actually over, it seems like you are playing into the hands of the defense. If you don’t normally run screens at all, probably harder for Darnold to become a dump off guy. Just my two cents since Darnold did have 5 full games with CMC (he was hurt in game of 2 others) and they connected for 35 receptions in those 5 games. He did only have DJ and Chosen to throw to the rest of the time but we certainly game planned to throw to CMC and the Vikings clearly weren’t targeting RBs until the end when it was already over.

They actually have a solid very young DL that’s improving every week since Verse/Fiske are rookies. The Rams drafting has been amazing the last few years, the type of results we only dream about. Unfortunately, that 2nd we picked up from the Rams that we thought early in the season would be similar to ours is not pick 25-32 and quite a bit worse than the pick Chicago owns.

I think TMac and the Tackles are going to be the BPAs at our pick. I see the two QBs and Hunter, Graham, Carter and Johnson being the top 6. Unfortunately, even if 1 of them fall, I think the Jets will steal that player.

I’m not so sure about that. We tend to overrate our guys. I don’t blame him for taking as much as he can get but that article says nothing about him having a ton of interest. It’s basically from his side and likely his agent trying to drum up interest in him. All that said, this is another example of us being bad drafters. We take project WRs over solid to stud OL and long snappers/tiny QBs over day 3 OL that have started elsewhere. Now that we have a ton of day 3 picks we better be shooting tons of shots at lineman, O or D.

I saw a Panthers article about what we could have done in the draft like McConkey and then Sainristil, but what hurt was seeing Beaux slimmer instead of Wade in the 6th. I didn’t realize Limmer went that late because I remember Huddle folks mentioning him as later (not 2nd like Frazier) center and we still avoided him that late like Trey Smith a few years ago for a long snapper. It’s truly sad to look at our last few drafts and how good they could have been if the Huddle did our draft.

That’s our MO. We drafted a risky torn ACL in the 2nd as the 1st RB drafted when the 2025 RB draft class is loaded and deep. A healthy Brooks might be a 3rd rounder in 2025 and we took him in 2024 knowing he might not even play in 2024 which makes the not looking ahead at the 2025 RB class all that much more idiotic. I know our finish and Young were way better than expected but we really need honest to goodness good drafts. While we won two OT games in the last 4 games, we also lost 30-14 and 48-14 in the other two games. We can’t have another feel good draft where we tell ourselves that Legette, Brooks, Wallace and Sanders might be OK someday. I’d bet good money that there aren’t many, if any, teams that would trade their top 4 picks for our top 4 in this past draft.

Remember we made fun of Rhule’s wife picking Hubbard because she liked him. Rhule was very familiar with Hubbard so you are right, I doubt he had much to do with the 2021 draft. Chuba ran for 173 and 2 TDs against Rhule’s last Baylor team.

Might be. I am pleasantly surprised by his turnaround from week 2 to when he got back in the lineup. I'm ecstatic that he played well enough that we won’t waste draft capital on another QB in this meh class. We can see how he looks in 2025 to see if DCs will take him more seriously and solve for him with all the video. I’m just glad he looks decent and we can focus on the D that was the worst scoring D in NFL history.

His stats were decent but that’s not surprising given the fact that Legette led the team in WR snaps (50% more than Coker and Thielen) and led the team in targets, 84 compared to 46 and 62. He was not nearly as effective as Coker and Thielen. He had 5.9 yards per target to their 10.4 and 9.9. The only WR he was more effective than was Mingo. Again, as a rookie, you expect some of that but I think the disappointment was from the key drops and his body catching. He needs to improve on that and hopefully he can but McConkey had no concerns about his hands and quickness/separation. Legette was a little disappointing and McConkey was exactly what his draft fans were hoping he would be, a QBs best friend. Based on watching the Texans-Chargers game, I highly doubt the Chargers make the playoffs if MConkey isn’t their pick.

Yep, you never know but I’d hope they would have “tried” the approach to maximize the pick. That said, outside of McCarthy who we didn’t see, this class appears to be a solid QB year. 4 of them were solid starters (remember still rookies) and Penix barely played.

This is how I see it. Not a single average starter, just guys we start because the alternatives are David Moore, Ian Thomas and mediocre/injured LBs. There are Mays, Zavala, BC and Tremble guys all over NFL benches. Sorry to the OP, but his grades were way too generous. Calling the 2024 class as 5 or 6 players is beyond generous because again they are all backups or below/well below average starters. Bryce’s play turned around the 2023 draft even though we still gave up too much considering we could have had Williams/Daniels/Maye with no trade up, start Corral tank for a QB season. I also like Chuba, but he’s replaceable. If you have a top rushing OL you can make average guys look like studs. Look at Miles Sanders in Philly as an example. Chuba’s better than Sanders but Barkley plays behind Sanders’ old Philly OL and he’s chasing records. Hubbard was a great pick because we took him in the 4th like we should have done instead of a risky Brooks in the 2nd.

Geez, can we stop with this crap. Morgan is the GM, he worked with Canales and the scouts. They picked him.

Honestly, he should be. If he doesn’t have his own Jugs machine at home, then he should be there every day. Amon Ra St. Brown had a segment they showed during a pregame or halftime where he said he still takes over 100 catches a day from the Jugs machine. I don’t care about a squirrel but he needs to have a bug in his ear about becoming a hands catcher. I couldn’t disagree more. Successful teams draft the best player not the guy who physically resembles a former player in the system. Bad teams draft lesser players that fit their system. We drafted like poo while Fitterer was here because he wanted to repeat what he saw in Seattle and he failed miserably. If you want a playoff team, you draft the BPAs and work the plays and system to fit them in. Do you recall Andy Reid/KC saying they drafted Mahomes because he reminded them of Alex Smith? Was CMC drafted because he reminded us of Stewart? McConkey would have been a great weapon for us, period because he gets open a ton and catches the ball like Thielen.

It’s too bad he didn’t draw a comparison with Mahomes and 12 seconds left against the Bills. Might have been meme worthy.

I like it. Throw the first pass out of bounds. No one expects it. For good measure throw the lateral out of bounds too. Did Allar have money on the game? ND is damn lucky they didn’t score a TD with 20 seconds left. Give Allar 10 more seconds and PSU ties the game, lol.

Whoever that was he doubled down on it by saying ND shouldn’t score a TD with 20 seconds left and give Allar enough time. Enough time to what, get picked again?

lol, the announcer is an idiot. Allar is not Mahomes. Giving Allar 20 seconds to score an 80 yard TD? If ND breaks away for a TD, score. I think a 20 yard FG missing is a lot more possible that Allar leading a TD drive in 20 seconds.

ND gave the game away there. Horrific play calling. Reminded me of Georgia Tech passing the ball all the time in OT against Georgia instead of running which they do better. LOL, Allar sucks balls. He should have 3 interceptions now.

I don’t like either of these teams. I’d rather they both lost but those penalties for Penn St were doubly huge because they wiped out both turnovers.