CanadianCat

If he plays well Im sure we are looking at a 4 year deal with void options after year 1. Basically 4 1 year deals.

I love the trade. A 3rd round pick is not worth a lot. I love that our team swings for the fences.

Keep Sam. We are paying him already. Honestly is cannot hurt..

Honestly I dont think it ends poorly. Cam is back and the wounds are healed. If he plays poorly, we are in the same position we would have been in. I just know I get to cheer on Cam for 8 more weeks.

I didn't want Cam back. I was ok to tank the rest of the season. Now Im fired up though. LFG!!!!

I kind of agree with you. I dont think running coaches out our town is good practice. Everyone knew the situation he was walking into. Rhule knew it, which is probably why he negotiated for so many years, its takes time to build a program. The QB play and the oline has been brutal, but the rest of the team is actually pretty good. We can fix this. This season is a wash unfortunately..

I dont think that Tepper would hesitate to fire Rhule if he loses faith in him. 'Losing' that $$ wont be a factor in his decision.

Personally I think that the problem is that Rhule is a 'team builder' meaning he runs things like a CEO. Trust your staff and support their decisions without being personally involved. Its complete speculation but I think he allowed Brady to make the call on Teddy, Darnold and Erving and Elfline. Brady said he wanted them, that they fit the scheme and Rhule told Fit to make it happen and he did. Bringing it to 'my level' Rhule looks like he acts like a Project Manager. You delegate out work and trust that they will get it done. When it works you look good but when things fall apart and you are asked specific questions you dont know the answers cause you became too detached. This would make sense why he doesn't like to fire this staff. I think he over delegated to Brady and that entire side of the ball is falling apart and has now crippled the defense.

Just cause you made a list doesnt mean the list its fact. 1. I dont think we were the only team interested in Darnold. And the price for a former 1st round QB is always high. 2. Extending Darnold is logical IF you think he is the guy. The more its self is not bad, the evaluation / handling of him in season has been bad. 3. Anderson has played poorly this year but his previous seasons justified that signing. Plus its a short extension, which is actually smart. 4. Being cute in the draft.. now sure what that means. The draft grades on the 2 oline guys we drafted were pretty good. FA set us up to draft BPA - which is what we did. 5. Signing Erving and Elfline. I mean I dont disagree that they have not played well but they did address this position in the offseason. 6. Trading the MLB. Well he didnt want to be here anyway.. 7. Trading for Henderson. I still like the trade. Tremble is not as good as Arnold but he is not the problem. Sam wouldn't be better with him here.

It is expensive, but if you dont have an oline... you really dont have a season. 1 solid vet would already make a big difference.

I think thats taking it out of context. I think you always want a D Coordinator's input on offensive players. You want to know how they are difficult to stop, or what skills they bring that make them an asset. Snow is not providing input on how Sam can run the complexities of Brady's offense. Everyone just needs to R-E-L-A-X... logic is starting to go out the window.

I wouldn't see it like that. I agree, obviously, that the OL FA signings didnt work out but its not like we signed top dollar contracts that handicap us. We are took a flyer on Sam and that again has not panned out. We have to gamble on QB's. Even drafting a QB in round 1 is a gamble. I dont think what we did this offseason impacts a 4 year rebuild in anyway.

Im actually 100% ok with not having a vet back up. We were always going to ride or die with Sam. Sam was either going to win his way out of getting replaced or lose his way to it. I dont think signing an 'elite back up' is a good part of the rebuilding process. Win with Sam or lose with Sam. We lost. Now put him on ice for the year. Build an oline next year and the year after bring in a QB. Rebuild complete. Just like the plan has always been.

Thats subjecture.. and most likely inaccurate. Firstly, 1st round QBs always get traded for something no matter how bad they are (see Josh Rosen). Plus I think we need to give Fit the benefit of the doubt that he knows how to negotiate and this is was the price driven by the market. I can see how people are mad and want to fire everyone, but I think that Fit is a good piece to this puzzle.

I thought this was what Brady was all about.. but I might be getting that confused with CMC's 1000/1000 season.

Thats the written way of adding 16 exclamation marks.

So you want to fire Fitt?

I mean, to be objective, there were NO signs that he would be good. He was among the worst QB's in the league the last few years. The Panthers brought him in based on assumptions and projections of what he could be - not what the film showed. Sam has been what he always has been. That said, you have to take shots at QB's. This is just looking like a miss.

Agreed. We took Sam's 5th year. So its likely he is here next year. I think we need sit him the rest of the year and let him learn from the sideline. Putting him out there is not helping us win and because of the 5th year option we need to see what he could be next year. We should bring in a vet to finish off the rest of the year and go into next season with Sam with an open QB competition. But at this point putting Sam out there is not good for anyone.

I would argue that Julio Jones has been a better WR with less media coverage because of team he plays on. TY Hilton is in the same conversation. Small market team, really good numbers. Im not really here to argue about stats.. More that that market you play in 'makes' the player.

Fair. But there are also a lot of other good players that put up stats, but play on smaller market teams.

I find it amazing how one catch on a big market team, vs a big market team suddenly propels you into super stardom.

I get what your saying but we have cap regardless of the rookie QB. So if we get a QB this year or the next we are still in a good spot. Actually waiting is probably better cause DJ Moore, Reddick and Burns will all take new deals soon. Horn I dont think needs to be generational to be worthy of his spot. The the modern NFL you need to stop the pass and you need plenty of CB's to do that. Its a really important position.

Its crazy to think about how young Sam is given how long hes has played already. Im still not completely ready to give us on him. Might be best to put him on ice the rest of the year and see what he can do next year when we have a better oline.