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Get the sense Deion Jones may be brought back and was only cut because he won't have to pass through waivers

I agree with you in terms of his 2024 base/cap hit, but next year it's structured to be fairly cheap, no? I think he ranks outside the top 50 in terms of base salary alone and his total cap hit for 2023 is ranked 26th among RBs next year. Not RB by committee numbers but (in the context of this thread), the Eagles top 2 RBs add up to $3.75m total cap hit which would rank 14th just behind Bijan Robinson and ahead of Najee Harris.

Had a leader on the board at 2...ugh.

He doesn't.

Don't watch on TV - follow on Twitter. TV guys are like 15-20 minutes behind all the moves being made.

They traded Jones to Sacramento.

You're right, let's trade up to the top pick in the 2nd round to draft a #3 center when we're trying to sign PJ Washington, whose best position is as a small ball 5, to an extension as well. Perfect roster building.

...ok? We just gave Nick Richards an extension and drafted Mark Williams with a first last year?

ah yes, very compelling

It’s Clifford. He’ll play vets over rooks until the decision is made for him to play rooks.

MJ making one final terrible decision before relinquishing the reigns by taking Miller over Scoot. Another draft blunder in a storied history of them that the franchise will come to regret. No one is trying to trade up to #2 to draft Miller. All of the trade up talk you've seen is around grabbing Scoot. I'd rather the Hornets trade the pick for Zion or Ingram if they're going to pass up on Scoot. All this garbage talk about fit as if the Hornets have the luxury of thinking fit vs BPA like they didn't just go 27-55. They've won more than 40 games 4 times in the past 19 seasons, have never won 50 games in the 2nd stint in Charlotte, never advanced past the first round in the 2nd stint (or the 2nd round in combined franchise history). If Miller ends up being the second coming of Paul George, I'll be the first to eat my crow. I'd rather gamble on the mentality of someone like Scoot who has been a professional for 2 years now and has the intangible "it factor" to be great. Miller also struggled against good competition. In his 10 games vs ranked opponents, he shot 35.2% from the field and 32.6% from 3. After his "breakout" game vs SCar, he finished the season shooting 33.1% from the field and 25% from 3 in a 9 game sample. He put up great stats against mediocre competition. His only truly impressive game against quality competition was vs Gonzaga back in December (those stats included in those ranked team figures, if you strip that game out, it's even more abysmal). Miller's ceiling is a pretty good 3 and D guy IMO. He's going to be a souped up version of Marvin Williams. A good player, sure, but not a superstar.

I think Chark is more of a fit since we need someone to take the top off the defense. I wouldn't mind signing Leonard Floyd to a short-term deal to start at OLB opposite Burns either.

I can't say I'm a HUGE fan of it, but I understand the rationale as he's a complete back that catches out of the backfield and will probably be our rookie QB's safety valve. Also, it's not that bad of a contract - it's really a 2-year deal and then the Panthers can move on without too much of a hit, if necessary. There's no guaranteed salary after the 2024 season, so cutting him out right would leave just under $3m of dead money and free up just over $5m of cap space. We'd just be on the hook for the remaining prorated signing bonus: https://overthecap.com/player/miles-sanders/7844

Just looked it up, based on AAV it's the 20th ranked contract among TEs. Similar to Tyler Higbee and Josh Oliver, less than Will Dissly, CJ Uzomah, and Logan Thomas. Not terrible I guess.

Woof, not sure about that contract given how slow the TE market has been so far?

So if I'm reading this right, his cap number for 2023 is only $2.72m, right? $4.92m signing bonus prorated over 3 years is $1.64m plus the fully guaranteed $1.08m salary for 2023. edit: Looks like there's also a $350k workout bonus so it's $3.07m per OTC. Not bad.

Bro, what WR & TE combo do you think you're getting for $4m? (He has $8m guaranteed over 2 years so that's $4m per) This signing does not preclude the Panthers from picking up a vet WR or TE and the bridge QB signing is vitally important. If you haven't heard, the only two WRs that have signed so far are Allen Lazard and Jakobi Meyers. I don't think any TEs except the Saints guy signed? And we're most likely taking a WR or TE at 39. Patience.

Kunkel says we're going with Gonzalez over Pinero next season

Believe Gantt confirmed Tuttle was signed to be the starting NT

So in a 3-4 base I'm thinking: Brown - Tuttle - ??? Burns - Shaq - Chinn - Luvu on early downs / Burns - Shaq - Luvu - Haynes on obvious pass rush downs? Horn - Woods - Bell - Jackson