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I don’t think we were allowed to claim he lacked tools, that sort of talk brought out the pitchforks. I never understood the devotion to the guy when he had never even suited up yet. I can’t wait until this is passed.

It could be Mayo proving why Mayo should or shouldn’t be.

Gave trading up an F when it was still an idea. F when it happened. F now. Also Fire whoever supported it.

That guy looks serious. Personally I prefer the coordinators to be the hands on coaches in the day to day activities and the head coach to oversee the whole deal. I know there are examples that are not that, that work great too. I guess I think burnout and spreading one person too thin as negatives for that approach. I like the military model of the general and his commanders. Direct the three phases of the on field game, guide decisions about game planning, be a great game day general. Come up with the mantra that the team latches onto for the week, just be the leader and definitely be the guy that picks the right people to work with. Which that last part is maybe the biggest thing to get right. I don’t know who that coach is, that also would open up a QB competition, but that’s what I want. I know that is a pipe dream but it is my pipe dream. I will say this, if Bryce Young could beat anyone out, I’d feel much better about him. We played against some draft day afterthoughts, that showed him up. I want to see him win an actual competition. Not the damned S2. Anyhow, that is the coach I want.

There are degrees of rightness sometimes. I thought Tepper was known to like Young for some time. I would consider things that are out there about Tepper getting rid of all the opposition (in the buiklding). Free thinkers is what I would call them. The people remaining have seen this happen. Inside that environment, If he is talking about Young and you see the gleam in his eyes (or whatever tells you that he wants that guy), do you need to be directly told that he wants him? TLDNR: there are reports of behavior among employees that is oriented towards how will the boss react, rather than towards the basic question of is it right.

Best reason to do it.

Then they are yes men, unless they honestly believe it. If they honestly believe that, I don’t want them. That QB should not be handed the team again with no competition after what he's shown on the field. Where it matters most. What do I expect? Same old same old.

It’s food for thought. We are missing information on him. Dan knows football and was a great Panther to be honest. I know he was there around Sam Mills so he gets the history and culture, you would think he wants to restore it. I definitely understand and go with the cold calculated guilt by association-if not participation viewpoint and there is one way to assure he doesn’t continue that here. I guess it comes down to unless I can be shown otherwise I would agree he can’t stay. Edit: I mainly want to hear what any GM applicant thinks about our QB situation. It starts there, and I want to at least hear the words ‘not good enough’ ands 'competition’. I am not gonna be happy at all with a Bryce Young polisher. IOW I am probably going to be unhappy whoever it is, I don’t expect them to hire the person that says what I want to hear.

It isn’t as if Dan Morgan knows nothing about football, he could be great at his job if he gets the chance. It’s just, how do we know what to think? We are not in a position to fairly assess his value, really. At least I am not. He would be able to hit the ground running, now that I think of it. He knows the lay of Mint Street and the team. Insider’s view style. It may be just as reasonable to think he would be great in the job. Can’t say he doesn’t know football. So WTF do we know...

It’s the same thing with Morgan as it was with Fitterer and the rest: we don’t know who put their name on these decisions over the last year and a half, post Rhule. Since it sucked so bad, and since I have no way to separate Morgan from that mess, for me he has to remain in that group. See you Dan.

That is Gettlemanesque (QB sails the ball? Simple. Taller WRs!). Congratulations, you demonstrate professional ability, with good potential to steal money from the NFL.

Pretty sure Stroud took a weak roster and made them better. In his first year. WR numbers were up with him throwing to them. Seriously, who can Young elevate? He needs to be elevated. That is the difference, I think it is a large gap. Young. It is always going to come back to people overlook his arm strength needing a big accommodation. I came into the year doubting he could make up for it and he has done little to ease any concerns. Every time I see a QB flip it 40 yards without trying, I get the blues.

I couldn’t finish it, really. So he got mad. Do something about it. I believe you get respect if you pull your weight in the job we share. The reality is when BY9 shows he can do the job better than he has so far, maybe someone will listen to him tell them about what they need to do. Before that? It’s just talk. As far as radio personality's 'oh boy Bryce Young is mad, look out now’ schtick, was Young pissed that the Bears dropped an int on the third down immediately before the long FG attempt? Or that he was incomplete on 1st and 2nd down? Who was he mad at? I hope himself. I mean, they apparently were 3 yards away from Piniero’s personal best yard line, and three plays left them in the same place. 3 plays and you guys can’t get a yard? What kind of faith do you want at that point? More than I’d have. At the time I bet the OL or WRs were blamed but it was 0-3 with the game on the line. I remember now they blamed Reich. edit: also, at the time, those 3 plays were called by Brown and after the game Reich took the play calling back. FWIW. I think three incompletions from there is pretty bad.

I believe it was the coaching. Why traditional approaches to supporting a rookie QB were abandoned, I can only guess, but the design played to the weaknesses of the personnel. I mean, in 2022 we had a 2nd tier OL but it was maximized mostly by Wilks for everyone to see, just months before Reich was handed the keys. They were not going to win against the elite DLs but they could compete against the rest, if you design your approach to take their strengths into consideration. And that is enough to give you a chance to at least run an offense and get some work on other things for that QB. Get little green some experience, some positive experience. Something to build on. Nope, let’s make it all harder than it has to be.

Depends on some things. Is Tepper the owner? JK but I want to know they aren’t burned out or ready to quit so we’ll assume it is 10 years. I don’t feel like some of the younger newer ones are proven yet so am not gonna pretend I know enough to speak to their future prospects. John Harbaugh, Tomlin have such high floors and that is what it’s about to me. I’d rather watch that year in year out even if there is no Superbowl, though both those guys have won that. I wouldn’t complain. Shanahan. Payton (sorry). McVay for offensive types. I’d take McDermott. Ryans. Vrabel. Not sure about the younger newer offensive guys.

It was weird to me, instant Love and Devotion and First Name Only status, he had not even put on the uniform and was treated as practically sacred by people here. Dare to ask a question that the answer isn’t likely what they want to hear, much less outright criticize, and you are insulted and mocked. A lot of people just lost their minds over it.

I don’t see any angle that makes us better than last.

Lol lord is there no Patriots entry here? They have been the gold standard for 20 years. Or, maybe they made 19, orc 18, due to the last couple of seasons. (oops, yeah Baltimore for sure). But I’m going them, Steelers, KC, Saints, Bills, a few others, but it’s changing. Some teams have turned it around but I just can’t make myself write their name in this kind of discussion.

And it seemed like he came in late, as an afterthought but not that because it illustrated how unenthusiastic Rhule or whoever was over what they already had done at the position. You could just tell it was someone panicking behind the scenes, hint hint, about the QB position. Which has been the norm for 4 years at least, I lose track.

Well, the thing that made that a losing strategy (which Reich damn well knew) was the non stretching of the field, the ridiculous number of guys people were putting in the box, etc. It makes it about impossible to play that dink game.

That is why guys like him don’t go up top. I don’t know what was in peoples’ brains. Alleged professionals.

Bizarre is right, do you think Frank even thought it possible to fix his footwork? If you have ever been okay at something and done it that way for a long enough time, and tried to change it you might agree that reverting to the familiar when it’s money time is the thing you have to conquer. And it is very very hard to do. People are talking like changing your footwork is a simple thing to do, as if rebuilding that guy from the ground up is something you can do in two ore three months. I don’t believe that, to start with. I wonder if they can fix it period, much less on a short schedule. His footwork ion particular? Seems to have at least one extra move in it. Which has to precede the loading up. So you are talking time. When I think of the velocity disadvantage he has to contend with and the extra hitch in the footwork, you are talking a split second on each end of the D. up front pass rush before the release and whatever the slower velocity gives to closing defenders. FWIW footwork related to throwing position, alignment with target, was a big Stroud attribute. Something about he has one motion, very efficient, and he was in position to cock and release - with his feet pointing where the ball was going. I hadn’t noticed it myself but could see it in the examples. OTOH I saw Bryce’s issues right away. And we are back around to bizarre.

That is what Reich was trying to do with the neutered offense, because Tepper wouldn’t okay sitting him. So Frank was trying to limit his exposure. At least that is what I believe.

Not one person that crows this everyone but Bryce crap has enough sense to consider why the plays sucked. I mean, has ANYONE ever seen the likes of the offense these coaches put out there? I think the honest answer has to be no. Nothing I have ever seen even comes close. You’d have to go back to when the forward pass was new. He cannot make enough types of throws on time with enough velocity to play in the NFL. They found out the hard way they can’t treat him like the players they are used to working with. That offense is what you got. Actually I know how to design an offense for him. Get Gettleman back and draft those NBA tall WRs and jump ball it 10 yards a play down the field. Bryce can make those throws and he won’t need to see where he is throwing it really. Just throw to a spot where your 7’ WR will be standing.

fug you Tepper. Stupid sob.