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Whatever we get, it will be more than he will be worth as an NFL QB. I'd like to get another QB.

And why expose him further if they do want to deal him.

I have some posts in here, but had to re register after this thread, not sure when. Each post by stratocatter is me. I had different devices and somehow couldn't get a password reset. It is pretty easy to figure out. stratocatter to strato. I doubt I could tell you the better pick or who wouldn't make it in the NFL between two really similar NFL prototype prospects, because it is not easy. I didn't know Stroud would be THAT good that quick. Bryce, that was easy. College vs NFL is a real thing. He is not NFL. That's enough to judge him on, you can stop there and save yourself some time because nothing else matters if you don't have that athleticism.

I won’t say I loved it, for the reason that much of it seemed tailored to Bryce. But I understood it. I certainly had no issue with drafting looking ahead vs immediate gratification. Lack of patience has really been a problem. Also I just never was able to believe that Bryce was going to end up being worth all that plus they were trashing the defense to get it done.

Someone didn’t. Frank knew. He knew when Young came to Charlotte and he saw it without any spin, one on one. That is when Frank started with the hangdog look.

Yeah that is all I meant. With the added it will suck hard again. He is coming back in if that happens. He is being paid a king’s ransom to play quarterback for the Panthers. I guess people will blame Dalton getting hurt on Tepper somehow. And anybody that has read my posts will know I am no fan of Tepper.

I definitely agree with your scenario about Reich. I think it finally got to the point he wouldn’t play along. Because he knew. Matter of fact, Reich got the best out of him, such as it was.

What do you think happens? Here comes the suck.

This is ridiculous from the stand point the it is commonly done all the time. Tell me you never heard any other coach or owner or GM say this about a player or a manager and the next or a few days later they fire them. Release them. Also, you seem to believe that Canales personally told Bryce after the game that he was still the starter. 1st I would doubt that. Second what evidence? And not to your post but the general thing with Tepper. Is it possible they all agree? I can see Tepper making the call and Canales going Thank You. Not the first time I said this but it fits: there is plenty of Bad Tepper to hold against him, a mountain, that it is unnecessary to just create reasons to be pissed off at him.

I have banged hard on the idea that there is no way a guy who played QB for years and stayed in as a coach, would sign off on an outlier with those mechanics. I just will not believe it.

Yeah. That is the biggest thing that says I can’t or won’t. Either one, you can’t or won’t have that in a player.

Here is a little thing that hit me while reading the last few posts. What does it say when the worst roster in the NFL thinks you ain’t good enough? Lol. That they are the ones needing the help? There is going to be a bunch of crow being passed off as chicken.

GOAT? Completely overlooking Neil Diamond. I am definitely kidding about Neil. So unless you go to both nights, you only get half the hits. Good plan by them.

I am going to snip out what I wanted to respond to in your post" You are saying that the same coaches are supposed to produce as good or better defense, and that the team did not give Young the help he needs. This is after an offseason where the defense has been plundered and made an into an afterthought, in the name of helping Bryce Young/the offense. What am I missing?

38 seconds in tells me he is full of poo and is spinning for clicks. You know how they say in court, where if they lie once you can assume they are lying always? To me Riddick is doing a pretty spiteful thing I think, by putting those words in someone's mouth. Unless he knows that is true. Which I doubt. An honest person would not have said that to Tepper, so he basically assaulting Canales. It is not Canales' fault that Young will not adhere to the the coaching he was obviously given. And of course I am referring to that Buffalo series and the very noticeable footwork change. Evidence that he had the opportunity to be a better player but reverted to his wonky ass 'techniques'. Because it is fuging hard not to. But that is still on Young for not getting that done. And unless he gets it done he is just a fraud. A wannabe NFL quarterback, playing at it. I mean NFL quarterbacks are kicking his ass, even the rookies. If he works to change this steadily he may be able to get it ingrained in a couple more months. That is as optimistic as I can be for him. Riddick though, I don't don't listen to sports talk any more except what youtube clips I like but I used to think pretty highly of him. This is pretty sad, to see this scapegoating. I can put words into Canales mouth too: "Mr Tepper, I have a pretty good feel for working with these guys, and have had some luck with it. You know Baker pretty well. That's my work with him. But I have to be honest, I'm not sure i can promise I can fix Bryce. He has many challenges. There are things we can do to help but so much of it is up to him. If he is willing to listen and work, I am sure we can make him a better QB. How good will be up to him." blah blah blah blah

I spoke that into existence I guess I was just going down a few youtube shorts and there it was... https://youtube.com/shorts/-02dj5wEvcc?si=Du4T-2D2R5iXWOhZ fuger won't embed.

More reasonable take from an ex non QB.

He could sneak between the legs of the OL, and grab ahold of someone's jersey until the big kids could get there to help.

A great TE is a ace in the hole. KC, two years running team had people handled fairly well except they couldn't deal with Kelce. We're screwed.

https://youtu.be/baFW6s4s1zQ?si=wNY82L_ChbtXtiJh This is blocked outside of youtube by the NFL. Likely at the request of Young's agent. It is called '3 minutes of Bryce Young Being an Absolute Bust'.

No, when the tape shows things that people ignore to keep pushing their excuses in defense of poor play, that is just people ignoring facts in favor of their narratives. Alabama open vs NFL open, plenty of examples where he would not throw the ball, that poo happened all the time.

Reading her list of dates… she sounds like a huge mistake.

If I bet, I would probably look at that one.

And they were all making excuses. Most people have finally stopped doing that.

What he said^^^^ Bryce is the worst looking one who ever got decent field time. Grier looked horrible but not for 18 game, there is no one close. Am I missing anybody? He has been inept. I am tempted to find that 3 minutes of Bryce's football follies video. Not what it's called, 3 minutes is in the title.