JawnyBlaze

Gotta pay attention to tendencies. Has McDermott done it a lot in Buffalo? I honestly don’t know, but it was a problem during Ron’s entire tenure. Wilkes was the same way both times as DC here, during his interim HC time, and as DC in SF. I dunno if he was that way in Arizona but you can see a pattern with Ron and Wilkes.

Oh there’s a reason. People just don’t like talking about it because it’s not overt, it’s deeply ingrained and not easy to point out evidence.

When it happens once, he got a bum deal. When it happens twice, maybe it’s a coincidence. Thrice? The problem is he’s just not very good. You can tout the defense rankings or whatever all you want, that is one of the most stacked defenses in history. He reverted to his passive soft tendencies and it contributed heavily to them losing. Same reason he was a poor HC and same reason both times he took over as DC here the defenses regressed. It’s like a quote I’ve been seeing online a lot lately, if you meet an asshole in the morning then you just met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you’re the asshole.

Evero >>>>>>>>>> Wilks

I’m thinking you didn’t hear about him getting fired. 49ers saw the same thing I said both times he was DC here. Not a good DC. Definitely not a good HC.

This didn’t age well.

Don’t really disagree. They were actually really good the year before. I’m not saying ignore them totally, maybe take a swing at a C in the middle rounds, but let’s see if the new staff can get the guys we have clicking again. If they just suck, well this year is a sunk year anyway. They can just contribute to getting as high a draft pick as possible for our new QB and THEN we can go crazy on OL heh. I’m not convinced the group we have is a lost cause though. They weren’t good last year (though not as bad as a lot of people think) but they were literally the strength of the offense the year before.

Being a free country doesn’t entitle you to do whatever you want in private spaces, such as privately owned message boards.

He’s just sticking up for his boy, and that’s fine. But there’s no way he watched enough Panthers games to make an informed opinion. Of the three entities mentioned: Bryce, the OL and the WRs, Bryce was the worst.

Ever hear of Jim Irsay? Tepper could show up at a Panthers press conference naked blitzed out of his mind tomorrow and he wouldn’t have to sell the team.

13 he had Gross so that was something, but 17 was pretty bad too. Larsen and Williams were awful. Norwell had one good year, Turner had maybe three. Kalil was always solid but really I’d say every year after Gross was gone he had a poor OL except ‘15 when it was just decent rather than poor. He always had ludicrously bad tackles after Gross except Oher who was just decent at best. ‘14 was certainly the worst, one of the worst OLs in history maybe heh. To sum it up, in nine years his first two years his lines were solid, 15 it was decent and the other six were poor to historically bad. That’s the way I saw it anyway.

And ‘13 and ‘17

Only on the huddle. On IG and twitter people still defend him to their dying breath. Same with the media.

People get absolutely stuck on pre draft hype. Happens all the time. Jeudy, Chase Young, Bryce. Too many other examples to recall.

Hayell no. Juedy is doodie

Eh, I was down on Chuba his first couple years but last year made me think he can be a lead back. Better QB play will force teams to stop focusing on stopping the run and Chuba (and Sanders and whoever else) will do better.

Quinn is probably the worst hire. I’d guess Harbaugh is the best but riskiest. The others I don’t have a strong opinion on. Morris might be good but I wouldn’t bet on it.

I dunno, I think he’s got good taste in dogs.

You’re assuming that the article is accurate in saying Tepper influenced the pick of Bryce. That’s just speculation until Tepper, Fitterer or Reich confirm it.

Thanks for this, I was just going off what I personally saw, but assuming those stats are correct it perfectly illustrates how our receivers were good enough. Not great, but good enough.

Lawd I almost fell out my chair reading someone say Cam was LESS accurate than Bryce…the least accurate QB I maybe have ever seen in my life. Cam had a high throw every now and then but he had good placement and put the ball where it needed to be for the WR to make a play and potential gain more yards. Bryce had a handful of good throws ALL YEAR. Even the short passes were often inaccurate and prevented the WR from trying to get YAC. Most passes over 10-15 yards either sailed 10 yards over the receivers head or otherwise nowhere in the vicinity.

They weren’t. They got NFL open enough. There were FAR more wildly inaccurate passes than drops. Bold: Yes, please go look at Cam’s years with bad OL and no weapons other than Olsen (that’s every single year after Smitty left). Even at the worst point Cam was 100x better than Bryce. One of those years he was MVP, with only the benefit of a mediocre LT rather than an atrocious one being a difference. Still a bad OL. Three of those years we were legit SB contenders. With a terrible HC and the worst OC to ever coordinate in the NFL.

The completely unsubstantiated rumor that Bryce is Tepper’s darling and he made that decision in doing a lot of heavy lifting in your claim.

I think it just requires improvement, not necessarily playoffs. I don’t think we’ve improved a single time since Tepper got the team. Ron was always on his last legs here, sticking around 6 years too long, Rhule treaded water for two and a half years, then Reich was actually WORSE than Rhule somehow, by the look of results on the field. So if there is an actual uptick, I think the leash will be much longer. Even as modest as four wins this year, as long as the offense looks somewhat competent, then six or seven wins the next year, then year three could end with nine wins and no playoffs and it would still be improvement. As long as the team looks to be going in the right direction.