Jon Snow

Used to. And this proves my point. The best drafts theyve had still couldn't produce a championship level team. And all those guys produced how many back to back winning seasons? How many times did they help win the nfcs? That's right, it doesn't matter until they figure out how to add more than 2 or 3 good players every half decade or so. It takes a complete team built over the long haul to compete every season, not just compete every decade or so. They have to do that EVERY draft.

In how many drafts? Just because they are forced to start doesn't make them pro bowl level either. I cannot remember a single draft that the Panthers got multiple pro bowl players from one draft. If they did its been so long ago and uneventful that it wasn't worth remembering. So yeah, it's rare that the Panthers had even a decent draft beyond the 1st round. One good draft will not fix this team. I stand by that even if they miraculously find players that turn into something.

I'm guessing they will be drafting some offensive line help this time around.

What Morgan should be focusing on it getting the best players from the draft group that is available to him this year. If that happens to be a defensive player he shouldn't pass on the guy just because he needs offensive talent. Especially if what's available for offensive help is not on the same level of said defensive player. It just comes down to who's still on the board when he picks. Not every position need can or will be addressed in this draft. It simply will not happen because no team is that lucky for one thing and this team is in bad, really bad shape. Secondly, no draft is filled with enough talent to allow for any team to walk away with more than one possible starter and one or two contributors in any one draft. I think everyone needs to curb their expectations about this year's draft.

That sums this place up perfectly. It happens every year and will continue on long after we're gone.

That's my philosophy as well.

I'm not ready to make any predictions with this year's team. There's just too many unknowns involved to know what to expect. Ask me again after preseason.

This is where I'm at. If it begins to upset my mood I do not need to be involved with it. The whole state of the franchise has become quite amusing to me. I find enjoyment when there's something positive that happens, no matter how small. I've learned to laugh at the negative elements that exist because that's how bad it's gotten. I've become accustomed to expect the worst and count anything positive as a blessing. It is what it is - old Foxy

Video or it didn't happen. Am I right?

I would not judge the offense by how it looks in preseason. It will be vanilla. Having said that, last preseason definitely was a foreshadowing of things to come. So who knows.

Have fun with it then. Far be it for me to stop someone from wasting time and energy on a fruitless effort. Please carry on.

You might want to wait until the 1st round is over before you go through all this trouble to only only have to start over anyway.

You could add RB to that list as well.

I think taking him in the second round is a bit too rich for me. At 65 is fair but higher is too much of a gamble for me.

As will 2025 I suspect.

The thing I've noticed about Bryce is that he is/was not a gambler on his throws. He almost obsessed about not making a mistake. But he didn't make many in college. After the first Atlanta game those picks got to him I think. Then Frank started that "keep it in the neighborhood" crap and started taking more control over the plays for some reason. The whole thing was dysfunctional from the jump.

Bryce has a range of 55 yards. I watched his pro day and counted the air yards on his deep throws. That's if he steps into it. Now his accuracy on those deep throws were hit and miss. But he can throw a ball 55 yards in the air, if he steps into it. Stroud threw his 10 yards more and Richardson throw for about 2 or 3 more than Stroud. It is what it is.

Probably got insulted by some idiot in here and said "peace out mtfr's". A large contingent around here wants to shout down anyone who might actually hear things because why? Who the hell knows. Anyway, take what I said with a grain of salt. I listen to their posts and take it for what it is. Doesn't mean it's 100% accurate all the time but I respect it.

I'm not believing anything unless @Leaky_Faucet says it.

If they even work out. The odds are just not there for it to go any other way.