MHS831

Emotion has no place in negotiations. When buying a car, a house, etc--you go in with emotions like, "This is the best house EVER!!!!" and you will certainly pay through the nose, only to later realize that you got the house you wanted, but now can't afford the car you want. Burns was probably waiting for the Bosa deal knowing it would increase his property value, but that does not mean he is worth Bosa money. I am guessing 4 years, $112m.

If Bosa got paid $34m I imagine Burns will counter that he is worth $27m, his asking price. No pass rusher is worth 2 million per sack.

I think it will be $25m with incentive bonuses to escalate the contract6 to $27m

Here is how I see it--I would rather have Crosby or Bosa than Burns. Give Burns a deal with incentives that put him on their level--if he wants Bosa and Crosby money, give him the ability to earn it by using their stats as benchmarks that kick in incentives.

Yes, but the only other suitor in free agency was cap strapped Atlanta. We overpaid about $5m per year, imo. Marty had an inferiority complex about Carolina and thought he had to overpay to keep players here. I remember he once said on WFNZ about his drafting ability--"Well, several of my draft picks are the highest paid players at their respective positions" (paraphrasing). I nearly put my car in the guardrail reaching for my damn phone to call in...Never got through.

I am back in NC now. What is Severna Park--3 miles from Arnold? I used to ride my bike across the Severn River and cut through the Naval Academy to get to work. At one point I lives on the South River near Mike's Crab House or Shack.

Personally, I have trouble rating my own team's players, but I give Burns a B+. Not elite like Bosa or even Crosby--but good at what he does. I think he should get good money, but do not break the bank for him to such a degree it cripples the team moving forward. We had a similar situation with Moton, and he is slated to cost us $30m in 2024 and 2025. Worth it? To me, in today's NFL, how you manage the cap is how you win. I think we are far from the days when Hurney was handing out huge contracts to RBs and re-signing personnel from a 4-12 team (like Charles Godfrey and a ridiculous deal--at the time--for Charles Johnson)--that is how this mess starts. If we tag him, we keep him for 2 years or so--that needs to be our play if he refuses good (just not elite) money. Make it so that he loses money by playing out his deal if he refuses, but don't make it so he and Tepper have the same financial planner.

I used to live in Arnold and Crofton--worked for the Capital Newspaper in Annapolis--where are you?

Agree-Ron ran Cam Newton into the ground to save his job. He was not a good coach. We now have a good coach-- Ron would have been here 3 years tops had we not drafted Cam.

He cheats better--spy cams and deflate gate. Cutting edge

Very reliable source

They are basically raw--either unfamiliar with the scheme, each other, or the NFL. Offense: could have 3 rookies starting (Zavala, Young, Mingo) along with Chark, Theilen, Sanders, and Hurst (4)--meaning that as many as seven *(7) starting offense is new from 2022. Defense: Tuttle, Brown, Bell, Houston, and Woods (5) are starting newcomers In other words, over HALF of the STARTERS from 2022 are new to the Panthers, as is the coaching staff. We really do not know what we have.

I send this to my wife every year--it is valid for the entire season and it works!:

they will add a DL if they make an immediate move. IMO

IF Zavala earns a starting spot, then the draft was a tremendous success, with three starters being added to the offense. Defensively, we were not helped by this draft for the immediate future, but we did bring in a lot of free agent upgrades

I have to think that YGM is going to play DE (not OLB) in certain passing situations. We have 5 TEs and 3 DEs. That is just wrong.

https://sports.yahoo.com/panthers-signing-former-giants-rb-220512849.html Had a 33 yard run in preseason

Keeping 5 TEs reminds me of the time Hurney kept 2 kickers.

Man, many of your piss ants derailed the hell out of this thread.

But if a UNC fan was being objective about a UNC player in his or her honest estimation, you would call it bias. That puts the bias on you, not the UNC fan.

Throckmorton gives us G/T flexibility depth with NFL starting experience. Jamison will make an impact. Never heard of the LB

He is a pretty big back--220--but I get your point.

Was Taylor picked up? If not, is he not on the PS?