MHS831

I am going to trust them. I see why they might have drafted XL (I did not want him) but he had 1 season of production and we all knew he was raw. Brooks was in rehab---in my view, first year GMs do not need to roll the dice like that---take the sure bets in round 1-gamble later.

Has she told us WHY she thinks this? She may have, but I dont recall or didnt see it I would like for her to react to Morgan's comments about drafting productive college players. Does she she Mykel as "productive?"

That is an interesting survey question as well. If Jax does not like their spot, they could move up with Cleveland for Hunter. calling it now--then Cleveland might feel better about taking a QB at 5--but they could trade back again and still get Sanders--just a hunch.

The jags have been rumored to be interested as well. I still think they go Graham.

He does--no offers out of high school--has really developed in a short time.

That is it--and you and I both know that some star emerges from these ranks every year--I see Bech as a guy who can have an AT-type career.

I like Noel a lot--and the other Iowa St WR-- another Jaylin/Jalen--Jalen "KC*" Royals from Utah State. *I made up the nickname. It just came to me, and it has a ring to it. I might get it copyrighted.

I have been on the Bech bandwagon since well before the SR Bowl. Hoping that he would stay a hidden gem and we'd be smart enough to grab him late. I just don't think Morgan cares as much about WR as we do

Here is how this draft could get mind-blowingly complicated--Interesting comment about Jags floating the Jeanty idea to lure Chicago into a trade. I have to think Ben Johnson is going to duplicate in many ways the success he had in Detroit, and I have to think their free agency was following the blueprint Carolina designed last year (one that the Saints designed before them with Brees) and they upgraded all of their interior linemen. RT in Chicago is set; Johnson loves RT Darnell Wright. However, at LT, Braxton Jones is coming off a December injury and is considered to be in a competition for the position this year by at least a few fans on the Bears Wire. His PFF score, however, was solid, posting an 80+ score in pass protection and 70+ score in run blocking. He is in his prime. However, in some of their fan mocks, the Bears are taking a LT. I thought they needed an Edge to play 4-3 strong side across from Sweat, but they signed Odeyingbo to a pretty big contract in March. For the Bears, in my view, it comes down to TE or Running Back. Kmet is their #1 TE and he had 474 yards in that role, which was 25th in the NFL last season for TEs. Adding Warren would help upgrade the TE spot and give them the ability to add around an estimated 80 yards of production per game. The Bears have D'Andre Swift at RB, but could use a RB to pair with him for a desired 2 RB attack. So if I am Da Bears, I stay at 10 and take Warren. If the Jags want to move on from Etienne, then they will take Jeanty. I think, if I were the Jags (with 10 picks this year) I would take Mason Graham and not try to get an 11th pick. It is a need position, and it seems to me the only reason they are toying with the idea of moving on from Etienne is because Jeanty is on the board. That, to me, would be a luxury pick. New GM, I think he does not get cute--they take Graham if they stay at 5. I might say the Jags' biggest need is Corner. #5 is too rich for Will Johnson, but remember, they have 10 picks. could they move up with Cleveland and take Hunter, giving them a CB and WR threat? To me, with the draft capital they have, that is the move they should make. Cleveland then could move back to #5. Remember, Nick Chubb is an aging (29) free agent coming off an injury--so he is gone. With an additional second rounder, the Browns move back and take Jeanty to give Flacco a running game. The Jags pick is very interesting, but I would not be surprised to see them move up.

I don't think so. Watson really screwed them up. I see something happening, but do not know what. Cousins could be had in a trade--but they liked Flacco when he played there. If it were me, I would not spend the #2 pick on Sanders. I would go after a tier 2 qb because I think Will Howard is going to start in the NFL soon, and I think Ewers was rated very high at the beginning of the year--he knows adversity and he beat out a Manning while taking Texas to 2 playoff appearances. I am not good at picking QBs, but I think Howard's run pass option and his accuracy is going to help someone. Stay in Ohio and play for the Browns behind Flacco--

After Cam at #1, there are three or four elite players and there could be a trade--If I am the Giants and I am needed a winning season badly and I have several needs, I might trade out and pick up mid first and an extra second rounder, including a QB--while nobody is going to move up to #3 for Sanders, they might for Carter or Hunter. If the Giants then move back, Sanders could still be in play. That could be the trade in the top 3. New England wants Campbell and I get that; Jacksonville at #5 could move back if someone wants Graham or Jeanty. But barring some trade, the top 4 are probably locked in. So it could be 2 hours into the draft before we get any surprises. Nice list, by the way--you nailed it.

Thanks but there are a lot of people on here who teach me football. Juan keeps us current, but there are some really good posters who know how to discuss and disagree if necessary. And yes, we have a few scrotum chiggers as well...

thats growth.

Remember Greg hardy? He had some character red flags and he turned out fine, amIright? On the other hand, Honeybadger was almost undraftable--he has turned it around. I would stay away from the players who abuse women or drugs, however. Felony littering, Speeding, fighting, kidnapping kittens and ransoming them back to their owners--those crimes can be overlooked. Of course, I think that would be catnapping.

To your point: An analyst (I forget who) said something interesting. After the first pick, the intriguing picks that could be "wrinkles" are the odd number picks: 3--Giants and Sanders/Carter, 5 Jags and Jeanty/Graham, (I would throw in #6 Raiders here and swap with the Jets, who will take OT Membou, and then the Saints at #9. I think picks 1-4 are set, regardless of what they are trying to do to pair the Giants and Sanders-- The drama is going to come from a trade--I think the Pats could trade, the Jags, the Raiders if Jeanty is taken at 5, and the Panthers.

I did not hear that. WOW

Are you referring to the benching and then starting and then benching and then cutting Jones? I am not as close to the Daboll situation, so I am genuinely asking. I remember when they hired Daboll, I thought it was a good hire. He had a good year, but when I looked over Schoen's record, I was like, "Who could win there?" The reason I ask, the Panthers nearly engaged in a very similar process with Young and Canales. But I am bullish on Jones, and think the Colts need to protect him and give him weapons--and he needs a RB and TE. the whole package. Funny, But Pat Shurmur (now Colorado OC) compares Shedeur Sanders and Daniel Jones. (I don't see it).

Frankly, I am surprised to see both still there. I wonder how much Jones was the fall guy within the organization. Schoen has made some questionable moves. I think Dabold is a good coach and Schoen is going to drag him down with him.

Here is my theory--The Giants are not 100% happy with their pass rush--15 sacks combined between Thib (6) and Burns (9). In 2026, The Giants will have to make a choice about Thib. They would then have 2 Edge rushers on second contracts--probably costing around $65m for both. Many teams want edge players; draft Carter and trade Thib. Carter's second contract would be due when Burns' contract expires. In essence, the Giants would have better Edge rushers at a cost of about $40m. You could probably get a high draft pick for Thib and save $25m. All that to say, "I don't think they are set at edge yet."

I see your views on Zavala (small sample size--17th game) and Mays. Depth is so important because it is rare to have all 5 play all season. Agree on RT--I think we need to start preparing for that now.

Assuming we draft Walker: Salisbury/Athens Ga, Charlotte/Raleigh, Alpharetta, Georgia/Columbia, Mullins, South Carolina/Columbia Our first rounders (except Bryce) have been within a 250 mile radius of Charlotte. Heck, three of them grew up right off I-85. Maybe our leased cars for scouts have a low mileage limit.

If the pick were going to be Mykel Williams, considering his lack of productivity, I would think the Panthers would attend the Georgia pro day. In fairness, Dan was answering questions being asked about Walker because so many mockers pick him. I think, if he is only an edge, then he would become a pass-rushing specialist and not a guy expected to hold the edge. I think he called the 8th pick a "talent wasteland" (I was listening). Wow.

Jeanty is the key, not Sanders, it seems. I realized that while I was doing my maff. Since T. Smith (Jets LT) retired and their RT is Morgan Moses, I see the Jets drafting OT---90%. If the Pats draft OT, and that is likely if Carter and Hunter are gone, then Jeanty going to Jaxonville would mean only Vegas needs to pass on him. I will be hoping for Jeanty to go to JAX for this reason....I think some podcaster said Jeanty odds to Jax (Betting lines) are improving. Here are the odds the last time I checked. 1. Titans: Miami quarterback Cam Ward is an overwhelming -20,000 favorite. 2. Browns: Colorado cornerback/wide receiver Travis Hunter is a -350 favorite. 3. Giants: Penn State defensive end Abdul Carter is a -300 favorite. 4. Patriots LSU offensive tackle Will Campbell is a -225 favorite. 5. Jaguars: Michigan defensive tackle Mason Graham is a -130 favorite. 6. Raiders: Boise State running back Ashton Jeanty is a -125 favorite. 7. Jets: Missouri offensive tackle Armand Membou is a -115 favorite. 8. Panthers: Georgia linebacker Jalon Walker is the most likely pick at +150. 9. Saints: Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders is the most likely pick at +200.

what did he give up last year in terms of sacks at LT? 7--less than a half sack a game. The Panthers surrendered 36 sacks in 2024. That is 2.12 sacks per game. That is not bad. NFL average is estimated to be about 2 to 2.5 sacks per game. Since the average OL surrenders 2+ sacks per game, one could reasonably assume the Tackles surrender more than guards and centers. While I cannot find data per position, if Ickey is below the average for OL combined, it is safe to assume in terms of sacks that he is above average. Moton only had 1 sack while playing. So that means the guards / centers and subs surrendered 28 sacks.

There are very few players in this draft that don't have a concern that could cause someone to not like them---I think the longer a player hangs around the top 10 (beginning in February) the more their flaws could withstand the scrutiny. Some fall too far, in my opinion, and are thrown into the scratch and dent bin. Jack Sawyer (Ohio State) comes to mind, Shavon Revel (East Carolina), Restrepo (Miami). I wonder if it is not that we found things through research, it could be that we exploited trivial things. You can't measure the "it" factor. Those three just mentioned--I would have no problem drafting them at a discount. Restrepo ran a 4.8--not as big a deal as people think--he is going to be a chain-moving slot--he will be sliding underneath, finding a hole in the zone, etc. Great hands, great attitude. I take him in the fourth. Jack Sawyer is the high motor over-achiever. I think he can be a 8-10 sack guy, block a lot of passes, and hold the edge. I take him in round 3 if they let him fall that far. Revel could be one of the top 3 CBs--if he is there at 58, I take him. When the flaw is what you see when you hear their names, you are blind to their other talents.