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Renfrow isn't in playing shape, he can't block and looks so small out there. He'll be better later in the season once he gets his legs and strength back. It really blows that XL isn't there mentally. I hope Tet plays. I came into the thread looking for updates and instead we are talking about Adam Thielen's wife. We need Coker back ASAP. If Coker can stay healthy, He's a good #2 to Tet even if its in the slot. David Moore can play for now since he actually blocks and knows what he's doing, even if he's slow. I like Brycen but he needs more time to learn blocking

Renfrow and Brycen are getting trucked when blocking, that is why David Moore is playing. Those two got to get stronger. I know AT isn't doing anything in Minnesota but he at least was a serviceable blocker. Renfrow will probably shine later in the season when he gets back into playing shape

This is why people are tired of these posts. Bryce has been bad no doubt, and he has to play better or we will be looking for a new QB after the season. But the same 5 posters in every thread suggesting that PJ Walker or Sam Howell or Aiden O'Connell would be winning more games is asinine and borders on delusion. None of those players are better than Dalton and he was AWFUL last year. There are about 10-11 serviceable QB's in the world - Allen, Lamar, Herbert, Mahomes, Stafford, Goff, Dak, Baker, Love, Daniels, Hurts (and only because he is playing on a stacked team, Hurts would be bad here), Daniel Jones (who I think is a mirage and will Darnold back to earth), and we don't have one. It is what it is. Replacing the 29th best QB with someone in the 30's or 50's isn't changing a damn thing on this team. Both Bryce and Canales are to blame. The offense cannot be this bad with this much invested in it. Even with Bryce not throwing downfield, Canales has to scheme better and be more creative. We have a talented running game yet everything we've ran so far is very vanilla.

He literally fumbled the game away against the Commanders of all teams last playoffs

Let's start Dalton then since he has more than both of them Edit: My bad, Dalton never won in the playoffs despite going there 4 times, yowzers How did that go last year again? If anyone is moving goalposts it's you. Conveniently ignoring how shitty the QB play has been across the league. Bryce has not been playing well, but so has 20 other team's QB's. There is no simple solution. We draft another one, they have a 80% chance to be the same or worse.

yep. Baker is a mental midget who will fold in the playoffs like always

Who the fug cares, this is a "what have you done for me lately" league and Stroud is 0-3 and the Texans offense is the worst in the league.

Looks like the Texans have to move on from Stroud too, since he's playing worse than Bryce Titans, Raiders, Texans, Panthers, Vikings, Falcons, Saints, Jets, Patriots, Cardinals, Jaguars, Dolphins all don't have QB's, and the draft appears to suck. Guess we are SOL

Anyone notice how Bryce had no pressure up the middle? Mays is so much better than Corbett

I think multiple things can be true. 1. Panthers need to move on from Bryce, who isn't good enough. 2. Bryce will almost assuredly go somewhere else and be way better, we will get dragged through the media, but that's just the way things are. 3. The Panthers will draft a QB who will be pretty bad to average, and we will repeat the process all over again and look for another QB in 4 years. This is just who we are as a franchise. This is why you build for defense not offense, and hope you get lucky with a Jake or Cam type that can give you just enough on offense

The secondary has been awesome through both games. And that's with a laughably bad pass rush

Purdy is better than Bryce. I think if you swap Daniel Jones and Bryce Young the Colts are still 2-0 and Panthers are still 0-2 though. Either way, there are only 6-8 teams happy with their QB play and we aren't one of them. We aren't alone. And it's not going to change next year if we draft a new QB, it's very rare to get a reliable, above average franchise QB nowadays. And even with Cam, we got 3 good years out of 8 with him. Same with Jake. 2003, 2005, 2008. We are definitely a "have not" franchise

Stroud just isn't good and hasn't been for a while. Only in the first rounds of playoffs lol There's a quarterback epidemic going around, only a few are consistently playing well week to week and the next chunk beyond Allen/Lamar is very hit and miss..and that includes Mahomes the last few years

There's not a single rookie in this draft that's going to make us win more than 3 games next year. If you want to start winning, going to have to look for a vet.

All these QB's suck and if we draft and start one next year prepare for another 2-15 season The only one that has looked ok is the Oklahoma QB Mateer

If they come out and struggle getting out of the huddle and snap the ball at 1 or 0 most times again, I am completely done with Canales, he doesn't have what it takes to be a head coach. fuging fix it.

App St.'s coaching must have been that bad, because Joey looks so much better at Tennessee. Had the pleasure of doing a private dinner for him and his offensive lineman last year, great guy

I think most of the board wanted to draft Keon or Ladd, and Frazier in the 2nd round with our picks

Whiffing on (big money) FA signings can be catastrophic, so I'd say it counts. Remember Matt Kalil?

Not getting the defensive stud we so sorely need, there’s some good ones in this upcoming draft. Jayden Daniels is an extreme outlier with the way QBs are busting left and right lately. I have no faith in this FO drafting a QB.

Watch this then watch the Falcons game in week 18 back to back. Bryce has reverted to being scared in the pocket, hopping too much, rushing, not trusting anyone, and sailing throws. Doesn't make any sense. What happened this offseason where he lost all that work he made last season

Yeah, I'd rather trade for Dak. Does anyone seriously think any of those guys will be a franchise QB for the Panthers. There's like a 10% chance. At best it'd be a repeat of the Bridgewater or the Darnold Panthers and then we will look to change the QB position again in 4 years. Only one of those guys will be a franchise QB and everyone knows Tepper won't luck out and select the right one

The team sucks right now because Fitterrer had the worst run of any NFL GM since 2000. Dan at least identified Coker, Hunt and Lewis, all three are solid starters. Jury is still out on FA class, you can't tell anything off a terrible week 1 game (just like last year). XL has about 3 games to turn it around or he will be replaced, but he was exceptionally lazy on Sunday which is inexcusable, as was Princely. But I'm not making excuses for Dan, its been as bad since he took over. Team is unprepared and Wallace and Scott were so bad they brought the entire defense down, and that's on Dan for not trying to upgrade those positions. I mean Peppers was a FA until yesterday and he's better than Scott in every single metric. We had the money. It tells me they weren't really caring about winning this season, just like the Hornets when they do this same bullshit

We'll probably draft a Drake Maye/JJ McCarthy type who will be about the same as Panthers Sam Darnold for the entirety of their rookie contract, lead us nowhere and then give up and do the same thing again in 4 years

I predict the Panthers surprise the Cardinals and win, like last year and the year Cam just signed. Then the huddle will be unsufferable with threads from both sides about how Bryce still sucks despite his performance or the Panthers are finally back, and then they lose next week to the Falcons in embarrassing fashion