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To add to that, I still don't think this is a front office and coaching staff pick.

My concern with Bryce and why I never thought he would be the pick is his playing weight at Bama was apparently 175to180ish and that is crazy for a first overall qb

He got 5m more total contract value and 6m more guaranteed. My question is what is fully guaranteed.. Hurts had 179 guaranteed but only 110 was fully guaranteed.

5 year 260m Guarantee is 185m Just barely eclipse that ridiculous Jalen Hurts contract.

Best guess 5 years 275m 200m guaranteed

I've seen Stroud as #4 or #5 from some people close to certain teams. AR was #2 on the Panthers board. Stroud was #3 in a close battle with Levis. I would not be surprised if Stroud is the 4th or 5th qb taken in the mid teens.

I remember when he got murdered on here for breaking the Smith being cut story. Yeesh

Why bring up levis then? I said I don't think he was ever in the conversation.

Did you read what I wrote?

I don't think Levis was ever in the conversation. I also don't think Stroud was either, despite the rumors that the coaches and front office didn't want Young at all and wanted Stroud. One such site that actually mentions that rumor is walterfootball. To add I 100% think AR was the original target in the trade up and Tepper nixed it.

Slowly and surely sounds like who we are picking isn't who we thought we'd pick when we traded up.

Anyone with more solid contacts with the team confirm that? Cause I've also heard most of the team [front office] wants AR and he was the target since #3 was also in play for a move up, but Tepper over ruled everyone and is making the pick Young.

The trade was done with 30 seconds left. Minnesota called it in, ravens say they tried but couldn't reach the league representative doing trades at the draft.

Still a chance that Houston decides to go for Young and makes a trade. Small chance but still there. Also a few want AR over Young. So 75/25 sounds right. AR killed it in meetings with teams, if his tape was a little bit more consistent, he'd be the pick imo.

He turned down a 4 year deal with 175 fully guaranteed reportedly earlier this off-season as well. Plus a non fully guaranteed deal that would have made him the highest paid nfl qb. Word is he wants 5 years, fully guaranteed and to be the highest paid qb in the same contract.

Trying to get Houston to bite and give up some picks and then get AR at #2.

Ok who did it?

I honestly don't care about his combined performance, it's what I've heard about his whiteboard work and meetings more than anything. Considering he's the only one of the top three qb's with prototypical nfl frame and size.

Why I've said you take AR and hope you can fix his footwork. If it hits, you've got a superstar. If it doesn't hit you've got an exciting player who can run and can make deep throws off play action. Both the other two top QB's have frame / size issues and with CJ there are other red flags for sure.

This gonna shock people Nfl red flags... he's got the least by looking at tape. Stroud actually has a narrow build and has pocket issues when he isn't cleanly protected. Young has a slight build and is small in height which is a huge red flag in the NFL. I mean he's not even as thickly built as Murry. Richardson has mechanic issues that look fixable and lack of college experience compared to the above 2... That lack of experience is actually a good thing in his case because that makes you think the mechanics are fixable and word about his work ethic and football iq makes me think he'll work his ass off to fix them and succeed doing so.

Clearly Stroud Clean pocket needed, narrow build Plan b issues.

I mean tape not highlights. From pre snap to the throw, the processing and football iq is easily seen. It's the mechanics breakdown on throws that causes the majority of his issues

I've said since the trade that it wasnt for Bryce or CJ but for AR. Going to #3 like originally intended doesn't make sense for CJ or Bryce, but does for AR. The cost for #1 was similar so they jumped for it. Played the process and BY jumped out to them. Still 100% think the pick is AR because to get him you had to jump #7 #5 and #4 for sure.

Think of a memory test type of thing. Say you have 10 objects on a wall and each light up in a pattern very quickly. You've got to remember the pattern by watching the whole area at once since they light up so quickly. Those are facets of the test

Not really word after the combine was he had the best interviews of any qb and was the best on the whiteboard and one of the more knowledgeable qbs in the draft football wise. The s2 score is not a surprise at all, especially if you watch his tape.