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Darnold revenge game to start the year, should be interesting

Both Horn and Surtain are legit day 1 starters at CB, i wouldn't be upset about the pick whatsoever. If it comes down to Horn or Slater i'm taking Horn.

Will the Panthers actually take Justin Fields if he's there is the question..Schefter now saying there is a 95% chance he's available at pick 7, which means unless Detroit trades out (which isn't high odds according to Peter King) the chances of him being available for the Panthers are extremely high. I hope they do!

Looks like based on the current rumors (with Pitts looking destined for Atlanta, Chase to Cinci and Smith/Waddle to Miami) that the Panthers at 8 should have a high probability of drafting either Fields or Sewell. If the Patriots do trade up in front of us at 7 with Detroit for Fields, we will literally have one of the best LT prospects in a long time staring us in the face. Cant wait for thursday.

There are 3 guys outside of the QBs who are potential franchise changing players (and 2 who are right on the fringe), these guys have an opportunity to be generational type guys. Penei Sewell, Patrick Surtain, and Kyle Pitts ( Chase and Horn could be as well ) If the QBs are off the board as expected securing one of those 3 who all happen to be in a position of need would be amazing. Trading back and missing any of those guys would be a major mistake. As bad as i want a QB, if Sewell is the pick i'm doing backflips on draft night. If Slater is the guy you covet, trade back.

The Texans were hot garbage this year, also had a horrible HC, had suspect WRs, terrible OL, everything you just mentioned. Did that make Watson look like garbage? No because he’s actually good. Darnold has not shown even a glimmer that he’s getting better or grasps being a consistent NFL starter. In fact based on all the metrics he’s gotten worse. Joe Flacco looked better in the offense than he did last year, let that sink in. Every QB can make throws here and again, Darnold can look good every once in a while, but he’s just not consistent enough to be an NFL starter. This isn’t the same as Tannehill who has running ability when the passing isn’t there. if you wanna stay in mediocrity than Darnold is the guy for you, it’s disheartening because the Panthers actually have a good team surrounding the QB..

Sorry that I’m just more knowledgeable about the sport than you. I guess everyone who you don’t agree with is an alt account, good way to show you have anything of substance to add. Instead of telling me why Darnold will actually succeed here when he’s been trash, you do the equivalent of telling mommy someone’s picking on you on the internet. LOL and alt account, who has time for that!

Lmfao you really just commented on someone’s rep on a message board. I’ve seen it all..I don’t post often, I have something called a life. All the rep in the world won’t make Darnold a good QB. I live in NJ, I watch the Jets often, I’ve seen Darnold in person often. I don’t know what else you need to hear, he’s garbage. You have probably seen like one Jets game your entire life.

I don’t need an alt account, I’m that confident Darnold won’t be here in 2022

Already screen shot this for when he crashes and burns. The guy is trash. You were probably one of the people excited about the Bridgewater signing also. We are stuck in mediocrity for even longer now congrats!

Jimmy Garrapolo is a legit starting QB. Teddy and Darnold are not on his level. I would be very excited if the Panthers were able to come away with Jimmy G. The obstacles are obviously his contract, can’t pay him and Teddy so a trade won’t work, and obviously he’s injury prone. The Niners seem to have an out with his contract this season, so I actually expect that he has a higher chance of being cut rather than traded. Unless they actually do want to let the rookie sit a year which is hard to believe but they are in win now mode so it’s plausible (think Chiefs with Alex the year Mahomes sat)

Darnold has not shown that he can be consistent enough to win in the NFL. Every QB can come in and make some throws once in a while ( even look at Rypien last season) but the guys who are consistent and don’t turn the ball over become starters. Sam Darnold is also not as athletic as Ryan Tannehill. I get the career arc seems similar as Darnold is destined to join another team. But when Tanny doesn’t have it teams still have to respect him going outside the pocket and taking off. Darnold doesn’t have that part of his game to lean on when the passing game isn’t working. You can try hiding him behind a great rushing attack like the Titans did with Tanny early on but at some point he’s gonna have to make some throws. I know everyone is eager to upgrade from Teddy, but Darnold isn’t an upgrade. Teddy is just a better QB right now and that’s the truth.

Let’s be clear, this is Rhules team, and he has final say. Fitterer is definitely a major contributor in all phases though. I like the moves they have made so far. The two olineman I’m not thrilled with, but Fox, Reddick, and Arnold look like fantastic pickups. Still waiting for them to address the secondary...

Stopping the run is obviously important. But it’s a passing league today, and getting pressure is much more important. I agree that Perryman is very good against the rush, and a second year of Brown in the middle getting more comfortable should also help. Those two could be the key. The front 7 is legit there’s no way around it. The secondary tho, outside of Chinn is absolute garbage. Can a great front 7 mask that? It can to an extent, but I would def feel more comfortable with atleast one real good CB. There’s still some relatively young upside vets available who they can bring in like Kevin King or Dunbar (Fitterer connection). I was personally hoping for Xavier Rhodes he would have been perfect . Rashaan Melvin better not be the only signing that’s all I’m saying as this defense looks ready to compete. If the Panthers didn’t need a QB so badly as well I would be banging on the table for a CB at 8..

While I continue to wait for a much needed influx of talent into the Panthers secondary, especially at CB, I have to say this defensive line has me excited. This Dline/Front 7 is going to give QBs fits. The sack potential is through the roof if they can stay healthy. Burns, YGM, Redick, Fox, and Brown is such an impressive group they have put together. We also have multipositional athletes like Chinn, Shaq and Carter coming off the edge which will keep teams on their heals. The question will remain, can they stop the run? Everyone knows outside of the QB and possibly LT, the Defensive Line is the most important part of your football team, and Rhule has assembled a great one. Now go get a real competent CB!

LT or CB..assuming we don’t like the value trade back, or take Pitts

Good signing, injury prone tho, guess that’s a common theme with our FO

I mean if we are being honest anyone we bring in will be better than what we have. The Panthers probably have the worst collection of CB talent in the NFL They made Rasul Douglas a camp casualty look like a pro bowler..Maybe Pride takes a step this year, maybe Dante stays healthy and doesn’t get abused by bigger WRs. Both are doubtful..

King is a good slot corner, and will be priced as such. Xavier Rhodes would be a nice short term signing as he rebounded nicely last year but he’s likely headed to a contender like SF. After that it’s a bunch of Jags, but the Panthers absolutely need a CB. Maybe Rasul is resigned, he was pretty good last year.

Xavier Rhodes is another guy who actually had a good year last year, might be looking at a one year prove it deal and would be worth signing. Again, a lot of these guys if forced to take less money in a depressed market place are going to try and suit up for contenders. Unfortunately the Panthers still aren’t there yet..

Clowney hasent lived up to the hype, but as it’s been mentioned in the previous post he’s still a threat and a worry for opposing OCs. He would fit right into our D if he took a reasonable deal. A combo of Clowney, Burns Brown and YGM coming at you would be awesome. I expect Clowney is trying to go to a contender tho which we are not and shouldn’t be expensive..

Head scratcher, this was our splash first signing? This guy is hot garbage. I’m so confused..

Naturally you look for player connections. Will Fitterer bang in the table for Shaq Griffen? Maybe Dunbar? Rhule has a past with intriguing FA pass rusher Hasaan Redick, who on paper looks every bit of a 3-4 edge but could be an interesting LB option if they believe he has some “positional flexibility”. I definitely see some CB and OL signings coming, and would enjoy a Norwell reunion.

This notion that Mac Jones can’t throw the deep ball reminds me of the Watson criticism when he was coming out. Everyone was saying how he seemed to lack arm strength and ball velocity. How did that work out? Macs uncorked some beautiful deep balls, and with some tremendous accuracy. He has his warts, but I don’t believe his deep ball is one of them.

It never made any sense to me, and still doesn’t. It’s a move that sadly has Hurneys fingerprints all over it. The move, and I said it at the time was simple. You let Cam Newton play out the final year of his contract. If he plays well great, you can sign him, or you can tag and trade him while his value is up. If he plays like ass your letting him walk, and ultimately picking in the top 5 and drafting a QB for the future. I don’t know why this was such a difficult concept for the front office and frankly is a move that’s given me pause. It was the play to make. Instead they signed Teddy, completely killing any trade opportunities they may have had for Cam. Once Teddy was signed everyone knew Cam was about to become a casualty. I just don’t understand the rush in signing him, nor the contract. I’m praying I’m right and it was all Hurney because if it was Rhules incompetence I’m worried. But I’m confident only Hurney can mess a situation up this bad, he’s just done this so many times before. Good riddance to Marty Hurney the worst thing that’s ever happened to this franchise.