Judo Thoreau

Stupidly courageous & courageously stupid. It’s the Panther way

Scott clearly sees him as a lock HOF level player, which is one of many reasons why a change is needed at GM by season’s end and not any later. Otherwise we’re probably just adding more damage to an already broken roster.

Has Nash Jensen even played yet? He probably couldn’t be any worse

If that’s what it takes for Tepper to realize he’s not omniscient, then by all means let Stroud win 10 Super Bowls and have him send over a commemorative pin after each one.

To OP: no, I don’t wonder. If Bryce vanished days before the draft, we’d have taken Richardson. No doubt in my mind that he was the #2 option. Stroud was probably removed from our board after the S2 fiasco if Tepper had a say in it.

Okay, the Giants are better. Disregard last post

Watching this NYG team as a non-fan is exactly how it is for fans of other teams watching the Panthers play.

Slowik is so similar to Falcons Shanahan. it’s uncanny.

I understand new scheme and all, but replacing players who actually contribute with ones who don’t is certainly not better than having a less than ideal system fit. At least keep them around until you’re sure it’s not a massive downgrade.

Constant tipped passes kinda threw Stroud off & Houston didn’t abandon the run as soon as they should’ve.

1-16 seems unlikely considering we still have 4 division games. Would be like losing a coin flip 4 times in a row.

He’s not good, but the offense is on the NYG/NE tier of lifelessness. Both can be true.

Hospital ball by Stroud there, Dell injured. If they lose 9 more starters and a few backups then we might get to see what Stroud would look like here.

I think an important common thread between the Rhule offseasons and the one Reich offseason is the inability to replace or retain players who played with heart and inspired the team. Reddick was probably our best defensive player in 2021, but for some reason we move on and he signs with the Eagles for 15m per. Still looking for a legit replacement for that production. Same could be said about Gilmore who was a great vet presence for the DB room and actually wanted to stay here. Trading CMC was probably the right decision and we were lucky to have someone like Foreman on the roster who ran hard and gave us a great identity for the 2nd half of the season. Instead of retaining him for 3-4m, we pay a guy 2x that amount who seemingly doesn’t care & showed up for 1 quarter in half a season. Thielen is a good piece but we really tried to replace Moore’s role with Chark, who isn’t half the player even when healthy, which is a rarity. Replacing team leader types with JAGs has been a constant under Fitterer, I think that may be his worst quality as a roster builder.

So Tepper would overlook the depletion of talent over the last 3 years just because they agree on the QB choice? I guess it’s not too hard to believe after hearing Tepper’s opinion of Bryce after the draft. Bryce doesn’t need receivers who can get open or a line to protect him, just give him a coaching staff that understands how amazing he is and the team is a contender.

If Fitterer somehow convinces Tepper that it’s all Reich’s fault and the roster is fine, he’s either the greatest salesman of all time or Tepper has some kind of weird attachment to him. It’s obvious to anyone paying attention that the roster has no more talent, even less skill than the year before despite having premium draft picks. It’s been like that for multiple offseasons now, but definitely blame Reich and let Fitterer slide. Would be a very Tepper thing to do at this point.

Hopefully Tepper cut Fitt off from offering anything more than a 3rd and Miles Sanders. Nothing more dangerous than a desperate GM trying to save his skin with some Hurney level future mortgaging.

Quite obvious they can’t. Whether it’s an unwilling or incapable situation is debatable.

Farewell Chris Tabor. Yeah, you’re probably doing the most for the team of anyone on the staff but it’s all your fault for not strengthening Pineiro’s leg

Another loss won’t change anything. Maybe if Bryce retires at halftime and Tepper gives Fitterer a lifetime extension.

I think this is the lowest point for me in the team’s history. At least we had some really promising young pieces in 2001, and we knew big leadership changes were coming after the season. In 2010 it was obvious that Fox was gone and we’d get either Luck or Cam in the draft for a fresh start. Right now, the only hope is Bryce becoming good eventually. That’s basically it, Tepper isn’t firing Reich after one season and loves Fitterer because he gets stupid movie references. No real foundational pieces on either side of the ball. No depth anywhere. No 1st round pick. Can’t think of a worse time than the present.

I remember the Panthers signing a chimney sweep to play LS at some point because the motion was pretty much the same. Having been a con man at some point is a good fit for this team because the motion is pretty much the same.

Trade him to the London Sillinannies for a pack of crisps

Brown and Burns would’ve been worth more in terms of draft value, but if the Bears wanted the same draft pick compensation for all then it was the right trade numbers wise. Everything I’ve seen from Fitterer’s draft day trades leads me to believe that he cares a lot about “winning” on the value chart, so that probably played a big role in the decision.

Oh it’s metaphorical ghosts, that’s disappointing. I was hoping it was real ones that could maybe play defense