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I think they call 2 plays on every down. The QB has the power to switch out (kill-kill) when he sees a certain defense. That means the defense shows they are playing the pass when we're in shotgun, they'll probably switch to a run play. But it seems defenses are setting up the QB to do that switch IMO.

So I misquoted, it's rookie QBs that starts opening day for their team. Not a rookies first start. David Carr is 2002 won his 1st game as rookie QB and it was the teams opener. Everybody wants everything now and like I said I wouldn't have put too much into a victory either. the whole team needs to find it's groove to see if we have a 5 - 6 win, a 7 - 8 win or maybe even a 9 - 10 win team. They don't know yet. That's all I'm saying to all you high paid experts out there. A fan is fan and will say what they want, but a true fan supports the team until it's obvious and then you're either rewarded or disappointed but that's what being a sports fan is. Enjoy the ride, don't complain about as it just starts.

The last time a starting rookie QB won his 1st game was in 2002. No DJ Chark, a hobbled Theilen and probably Marshall. Horn goes out. It wasn't that bad. 3 TO's hurt. The O-line did better. 1st game for Sanders. It's gonna take time. There were some positives. But it looked like a rookie playing in a new system with new coaches and a lot of new faces.

I don't think well see what we're capable of until at least 4 or 5 weeks in. Too many new things (Players, coaches, plays & systems, etc). If we win the first 3, I wouldn't get too excited, maybe the rest of the league didn't figure us out yet. If we lose the first 3, we didn't figure ourselves out yet. In fact I don't think we hit a stride (what ever that is) until mid season. Let's just hope we're in decent shape to battle for a playoff spot. I'm gonna be a fan and root hard no matter what. I believe in the staff and QB Young. It's gonna take time.

What I heard it was moved to Wednesday as the Beyonce concert needs more set up time in advance.

It's a 2 way street. It starts with the teams performance, but I have seen us playing good and the crowd doesn't get loud on defense. I've been to other stadiums where they are loud and proud no matter what. We have to see it first (some good play), but being optimistic will help the fans. When they see we can make plays when 3 & long or stop the other team on a 3rd and 1, they will get loud. And then when the team needs to the crowd to help drown out the other teams QBs and the signal calls, the fans need to help. Bring back home field advantage. From 2013 to about 2018 we had a 75% home field winning %.

Cam brought life to BofA. In 2013 he started to give input to the music that he and the other players liked. As the stadium DJ we went away from just jock jams to a more variety. Winning made the energy higher and the music sound better. The last few years (different bosses) and with losing and with NO Cam, the energy was gone and music is different. Can't play happy fun songs while losing. Fans lost interest in the game as it went. Winning will cure it for sure but it also starts with the fans. Don't sell your ticket to opposing fans. Be loud when at the stadium no matter what. Then you become part of the culture. The music/audio when on defense has to stop no later that 20 seconds left on the play clock. It's up to fans (through video prompts) to keep the noise level up and the last few years we have not. 3rd down should be deafening. New team, new players, new coaches and a new attitude. Hopefully the fans come back loud and proud and give the team a chance.

I think Barno will take a big step being in a 3-4 and rushing from a stand up position then a hand in the dirt.

Seriously? He said he was learning the 1st year and a 1/2. Then Covid hit and he couldn't get in the building. Last year he gets in an Evaluates and starts making the changes necessary. Sounds like a smart man who learned a new business.

a DE will take a year or 2 to contribute or be a star. A WR the same. But a quality CB could be good immediately. I also like LB but would they be a difference maker at 39? I also see TE almost as much as CB.

Good points

I really think they traded up for Young, with CJ as a plan B if the Texans wanted Young so bad they made a trade. Young is generational. Listen to the interviews. He played against some serious competition. I like both, but Young is Peyton Manning smart, just in a small body. They way they protect the QBs these days I don't think it's an issue (anybody can get hurt on any given play). Like I said, I think they like CJ if they had to draft #2 and got some picks out of it.

Personally, who cares. Both Young and CJ will be successful with this staff. I trust who they pick.

I don't, but in watching some per draft specials and other tidbits, it's sounds like Young is mentioned more with Texans than CJ in what fits what they want to do. What that is, IDK.

Why? When they got the pick they said they were open to a move. The Texans are known to like Young more and the Bears hoped to get the Texans to trade with them when they had the pick. If the Panthers like both for different reasons, why not get some picks and still get a guy you like. It might not happen but it does make sense with those scenarios.

Or... They like both and know the Texans really want Young and they're trying to nudge them into a trade swap, get a couple of more picks and then take CJ. Think about it. If the Texans want Young and they feel we'll take him and not fall to them, then they just might jump. Who's got the best poker face?

He was good with the Cowboys (as a 3rd WR) and is about 7 mil a year. Good stats the last 2 years with the Cowboys, just didn't do much with the Dolphins. Would he be a good option to make drafting a WR one less thing to worry about?

Fitterer is very smart. He has a value for each position in the grand scheme and he won't go over. That's how you make it all work. It's a long term plan.

It's a Pioneer RZX (almost identical to CDJs).

Like many players I get to know, DJ Moore was cool. From texts about what music he liked to having fun teaching him a DJ trick to seeing the way he was with his family. Cool dude, solid player, good family guy and fun teammate. Fans don't get to see the human side to it and as it stinks to see him have to move his family and go. I understand it's a business and will always support the team and I always be a DJ Moore fan. The screen of a text from him was before I knew his number and I had no idea who it was.

Just comparing the Tenn game vs the GA game, I would take CJ. I trust Fitterer and staff to make the right call based on the offense they want to run and what pieces they put around the QB.

Let's say the price is too high to move up to 1 or 3. "Look at what SF gave up to get Lance and he's done nothing in 2 years". It's a risk. If the Bears don't get a huge haul they can just take a great player - not a QB. Maybe we get in at 5 or 6 and take Levis as CJ Stroud and Young will be gone in the top 4. But if you stay put and AR is at 9, do you take him and build around him, like a TE and WR in the 2nd through 4th? Is 9 to high for AR. He is a project and I can't see teams moving up to get him that high. If you look at Fields who dropped to 11 and he had more production on tape. Even if you resign Sam for a year, give Corral a shot to develop and AR some time, you can still have a playoff team with a good draft and a couple of good FA pick ups and then go for it all by 2024. I trust in Fitterer and the FO to do what is best so I'm just thinking out loud.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/13/panthers-acquire-bears-qb-justin-fields-2023-mock-draft/ The Carolina Panthers passed up on their chance to grab Justin Fields almost two years ago, instead selecting cornerback Jaycee Horn with the eighth pick in the 2021 draft. But will they get a redo this spring? Well, 33rd Team’s scouting department believes they may—or at least should. In their latest 2023 mock draft, the group of T.J. McCreight, Kevin Cohn, Justin Casey and Evan Pritt—all of whom have NFL front office experience—gets creative with Carolina’s first-round selection. Rather than drafting and developing their own franchise quarterback in this projection, the Panthers trade their ninth overall pick to the Chicago Bears in exchange for Fields. Yup, straight up! Fields is fresh off a record-breaking 2022 campaign, one in which he rushed for the most yards (178) by a quarterback in a game. The electric playmaker finished up with 1,143 yards on the ground, second only to Lamar Jackson’s all-time mark for single-season rushing yards by a quarterback (1,206) set back in 2019. Through the air, Fields was a bit less impressive from a statistical standpoint. He completed 60.4 percent of his throws for 2,242 yards, 17 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. But would new Panthers head coach Frank Reich be able to unlock Fields’ gifts as a passer? And if so, would he—with two years of NFL play already under belt—expedite the process and be worth the ninth pick?

Why do you believe that?

I really liked and have som much respect for Wilks (met him personally a few times) but I understand the offensive minded approach the Panthers wanted to go. What Wilks did with a wounded team what great. I bet if we didn't collapse during the Bengals game and had a better showing at the Bucs it might be different. (Falcons loss wasn't on him). I would like to believe if he did get the Panthers to the playoffs, that would have been enough to get the long term job. But what sucks in the NFL is if you have a great coordinator, they get taken and you can't build consistency. Look at the Bills this year vs last without Daboll. You almost need an offensive minded HC to keep the QB and offense consistent. That, IMO, is probably why they didn't go with Wilks. If they hired a defensive minded coach, they everybody would have rightfully screamed foul and may have been right, but they didn't.