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I honestly think it was a mutual, collective decision. Canales might have been hired to be the Panthers head coach because he was the best chance to get Bryce where he needed to be to succeed and did everything...I mean he and Morgan did EVERYTHING possible to create a successful situation for Bryce. And it was obvious... painfully obvious that not only was it not working, the team was losing and it was effecting everything. Canales was hired because they thought he could help Bryce, but he was hired as the PANTHERS head coach, not Bryce's personal coach. If everyone could see this was failing far beyond what anyone could have and it didn't look like it was anything that could be fixed quickly....then that everyone who could see would have to include Canales himself who is responsible for not just Bryce, but the whole damn team has to have looked at what it was doing to the team and their chances to win and said, we have to choose what is best for Bryce or the Panthers. He came in and said he had no personal attachment to any player, and that means he has no personal attachment to Bryce. He's going to do what is best to help the team win. If that means benching Bryce, then that's what he's going to do. Did he make this call without Teppers blessing or input? Hell no. Did they come into the Monday meeting having both come to the same conclusion regarding Bryce? I would have a hard time arguing that wasn't the case. All in leadership has to have seen it wasn't just not working...it was killing the team and they had to make this switch for the betterment of the team soon or else lose the season completely. No way would Canales had bern campaigning for Bryce to stay in there. He's not that dumb. Sometimes regardless of the work you do, you have to realize when it's futile and the earlier you recognize it, the better off you will be.

we all bought the super processer hype or russel wilson 2.0 we wound up with a nice little guy in a game that got too big and scary for him the longer he stayed on the field.

Bryce is not Brees. Bryce won't be able to do it like Brees. Bryce can't be taught do do it like Brees. Size is only a part of the issue. It's actually the smallest part of the issue at the moment, because there is a mental disconnect with what and how he's supposed to actually do the job at a fundamental level. That is something that Brees never had to overcome. What is going on with Bryce is a regression combined with being a player with limited physical abilities/traits and i'm not sure how to deal with or overcome that. the hope is someone with limited physical ability/traits will have a solid enough mental game to compensate for what they lack physically. that somewhere, somehow they would find a balance. successful QBs find a way to make it work. With Bryce this season, there is nothing to balance out the negative aspects of him as a player. He physically and mentally struggles to see the field and he has lost the ability to process situations. it's just not as simple as helping him find lanes because he's lost.

same. i believed the hype. he might be a great kid. i have no doubts about that. i just think that the game is too big for him in all regards now. he started playing to his size. maybe he can shake it all out and figure it out, but i don't think we need to be holding our breath and acting like he will. looking like we made a very costly mistake. the good thing is we have an owner who, even though he makes a lot of mistakes, he doesn't dig his heels in the ground. he may not admit them, but he sure doesn't take much time moving on from them.

are you creating self esteem out of thin air or are you building it from a sense of accomplishment? you achieved because you got stuff done. you got stuff done because it was necessary to get it done. you had a goal and you got to work. you figured out what needed to be done and you got at it. and then you figured out what else needed to be done and you got after that, too. you achieved because you got after it. you started because it was necessary to get where you wanted to get.

That's fine, and I see where you're coming from, but it won't win him the job back. Believing in himself isn't enough and it wasn't enough for you. You put in the work and you made it work. You were successful because you worked hard, not because you believed in yourself. Things fell right for you because you had the talent and because you had the right opportunities. I'm all about people realizing they have value and are worthy of happiness, but that's something else. Believing in yourself, that's ground zero if you want to accomplish something. That should be the baseline for everyone. But if you think that's enough, you're never going to get anywhere.

Believing in yourself is just a trick of the mind. Anyone can pull that off without having anything to back it up. If you think that is enough, that all you need is to believe in yourself, you'll never go anywhere. You'll just keep spinning your wheels. He can spend his whole life believing in himself, but it won't get him where he wants to be. Until he can convince others he deserves to be a franchise QB, he will never be one.

Your priority isn't to believe in yourself. No one gives a damn if you believe in yourself. Any talentless hack can pull that off. You will not accomplish your goal and reach your dream unless you give people a reason to believe in you. That is your priority, kid. I don't know what kind of lessons you learned in life from your parents, but that should have been one of the biggest lessons. Maybe now you can learn it.

I think no one saw anything near this level of awfulness happening. It's epically bad. Something went seriously wrong with him.

feed him and he'll be alright.

thanks @Candler Cat copied and added to the OP.

post the list and i'll add it to the OP

hell, just bring sammy back.

Could be and I know that people will scoff at this very loose comparison, but it's kind of like The Golden Calf of Bristol (lol Teb0w). Great college QB whose game just didn't translate to the pros. Happens a lot, but doesn't always get caught in time.

i can't get enough of this jam...

none of this matters because it does no good. nothing is going to change except y'alls blood pressure is just going to keep going up. it's just blind rage that will go no where and accomplish nothing.

there's nothing that can be done. not sure what you expect or hope to accomplish with all this tepper hate. it's basically just shouting at cliff face right in front of you angry because it's there. in the words of fox, it is what it is. yes, tepper has fugged up....a lot. just don't know what good it is or how it helps yelling about something that isn't going to change. what would he need to do to change things around (other than sell the team)?

lol y'all need to stop with this selling the team poo. it ain't happening.

ask her

lol no one is making you out to be a villain. if baker and darnold were successful other places before here, you might be on to something. they sucked before they came here. they sucked while they were here. they just needed to bounce a while. sammy was still really young. yes, the situation sucked here for all of them...but they didn't do anything to help either. now they find themselves in better situations as more mature versions of themselves. tepper is A problem, but he's not THE problem. but even if he is the problem....what do you expect is going to happen? he's not going anywhere.

lol i'm going to let this ride for a while.

lebron is lewrong. it's absolutely 100% on bryce. and whatever work bryce was putting in, it wasn't enough. amp it up and ramp it up.