Vonleh Is A Wasted Pick!

[catnip]

Vonleh was projected as high as #4 in the draft. One expert listed him as the best power forward in the draft.  While watching the draft and looking on the internet, they had Vonley as the highest rated player when we picked.  The Hornets may have gotten a gift just like the Panthers with Star.

[toldozer]

Once big al is done zeller and vonleh will be nba quality starters down low. Definitely not a wasted pick. Especially if mcbob isn't back

[carolina-chuck]

Vonleh was projected as high as #4 in the draft. One expert listed him as the best power forward in the draft. While watching the draft and looking on the internet, they had Vonley as the highest rated player when we picked. The Hornets may have gotten a gift just like the Panthers with Star.

Vonleh was projected to go no1 at one time by some.

[carolina-chuck]

Once big al is done zeller and vonleh will be nba quality starters down low. Definitely not a wasted pick. Especially if mcbob isn't back

Yup. They're our future.

I don't think McBob is back. We want him but its about the $$$. We're not or better not overpay for him.

[carpanfan96]

Yup. They're our future.

I don't think McBob is back. We want him but its about the $$$. We're not or better not overpay for him.

McRoberts is going to be back, Clifford likes his passing and ball handling as the stretch 4. MJ loves him and will probably give him 5m a year.

Also they think the two most important spots open on the team for FA is the two backup PG spots. Clifford values a backup PG more then say upgrading at the 2 or 3. Also unlike fans he understands the importance of MKG to this team.

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[Jakob]

Seriously! Some guys on here make me so mad. Just throwing dumb ass comparison out there hoping it stick on the wall.

Vonleh is already a better defender than Zeller. Could be a better defender than Biz very soon, and imo a better offensive player than Zeller. Zeller is the typical stretch 4. He got a lot of his points in transition at Indiana. Vonleh scored in a variety of ways last year.

Quit the damn Bismack and Ibaka comparison!

Do you realize you just quoted two people saying that the comparisons are ridiculous?

[carolina-chuck]

McRoberts is going to be back, Clifford likes his passing and ball handling as the stretch 4. MJ loves him and will probably give him 5m a year.

Also they think the two most important spots open on the team for FA is the two backup PG spots. Clifford values a backup PG more then say upgrading at the 2 or 3. Also unlike fans he understands the importance of MKG to this team.

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Clifford value McRob that much bc he's pretty much the PG of this team.

[carolina-chuck]

Do you realize you just quoted two people saying that the comparisons are ridiculous?

Duh

[toldozer]

McRoberts is going to be back, Clifford likes his passing and ball handling as the stretch 4. MJ loves him and will probably give him 5m a year.

Also they think the two most important spots open on the team for FA is the two backup PG spots. Clifford values a backup PG more then say upgrading at the 2 or 3. Also unlike fans he understands the importance of MKG to this team.

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If pj can fill it up from the 2 having mkg at the three isn't a big deal. It was having hendo and mkg at 2 & 3 that was the issue.

[Falcons1stPanthers2nd]

A few reasons why someone might say that. 

 

1) We have Zeller who we just drafted 4th overall that plays the same position. 

 

2) Vonleh doesnt improve or become more assertive and ends up a bust. 

Zeller would be a more wasted pick than Vonleh.

[Chuckie]

Yup. They're our future.

I don't think McBob is back. We want him but its about the $$$. We're not or better not overpay for him.

We don't have to be the highest offer for McRoberts. He took less money last time bc he felt like he was wanted and valued here more. We have shown that he is an important piece in the pie. I don't see us breaking the bank trying to resign him if someone comes in with a high offer. I think he wants to be here as much as we want him here. All he's doing is getting a little better contract that last longer then 1year.

[Chuckie]

I think Vonleh as eventually turning into a center myself. If he's still growing he will be 7ft within a year or two. Zeller or Vonleh will play some center this year with Haywood gone.

[carolina-chuck]

We don't have to be the highest offer for McRoberts. He took less money last time bc he felt like he was wanted and valued here more. We have shown that he is an important piece in the pie. I don't see us breaking the bank trying to resign him if someone comes in with a high offer. I think he wants to be here as much as we want him here. All he's doing is getting a little better contract that last longer then 1year.

Yea, but he took less money to earn more money this year. He did just that. Some teams could really use him. As much as Cho and Clifford likes him, I think Vonleh will impact whether McRob will be here or not. I know Clifford said that he texted McR after the Vonleh pick, but trust me I think it'll affect the decision. Zeller and Vonleh are drafted too high to be sitting on the bench.

[Chuckie]

With Haywood gone one of them can slide into the center spot for some minutes. Honestly BIg Al played to many minutes during the season last year and we have seen what happens with him out of the lineup or hurt so one of them will be groomed to take some minutes at center. Thus we still need MCRoberts for multiple years.