If Cam threw 4 interceptions in a game...

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Every game has it's own set of angles and outcomes. Each one is different.

 

i still have no idea how you got from "would you rather have stats or wins" to that

 

here's just a shot in the dark re: "angles and outcomes" : i think it's ludicrous to look at this game and think that wilson deserves a ton of credit when there were like five or six improbable things that had to happen (triggered by the performances of other units on the team mostly) to even give him the shot to do what he did.  that's not a bunch of hypothetical grabass, those are just facts.

[CarolinaCoolin]

Colin Cowherd praised him.

Next.

No he didn't.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

They defend Cam like he's their wife. Complimenting any other young QB is a slap in the face to Cam. If another young QB has a bad game, somehow it has something to do with Cam. Wait till after this game ends. "If Cam would have played like Luck played today, analysts would be killing him."

Why does it matter so much?

 

hey here's a wild concept.  make sure your seatbelts are buckled!  okay, here we go:

 

why are you even here if not to discuss the NFL and its players

[FootballMaestro]

The bottom line/In a nutshell: Cam is a further developed NFL QB than Wilson is, however Seattle scheme, running game and fantastic defense protects him from exposing his shortcomings as often.

 

Credit the Seattle OC, run game and defense.

[pstall]

i still have no idea how you got from "would you rather have stats or wins" to that

here's just a shot in the dark re: "angles and outcomes" : i think it's ludicrous to look at this game and think that wilson deserves a ton of credit when there were like five or six improbable things that had to happen (triggered by the performances of other units on the team mostly) to even give him the shot to do what he did.

The ball bounced their way. No question. But Wilson could have screwed it up but didn't. In my book he isn't the mvp today. It was coaching.

Chance favors the prepared man. But when it mattered most Wilson came thru. This isn't golf where your mistakes are more pronounced.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

The bottom line/In a nutshell: Cam is a further developed NFL QB than Wilson is, however Seattle scheme, running game and fantastic defense protects him from exposing this much.

 

congrats you're officially a girl in the eyes of pstall

[pstall]

No he didn't.

He did. While talking to Trent Dilfer on Monday at 10:32 am.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

also the current NFL is heavily driven by media coverage and narratives so it's only natural for that to come up for discussion.  "experts" undeniably have a lot of influence on casual NFL fans and it's impossible to have an actual fact based discussion a lot of the time because of that.

[pstall]

congrats you're officially a girl in the eyes of pstall

Not officially. I would have to see him throw a baseball.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

The ball bounced their way. No question. But Wilson could have screwed it up but didn't. In my book he isn't the mvp today. It was coaching.

Chance favors the prepared man. But when it mattered most Wilson came thru. This isn't golf where your mistakes are more pronounced.

 

we saw a case study in that today with wilson's performance

[FootballMaestro]

congrats you're officially a girl in the eyes of pstall

 

There's nothing wrong with Wilson being any of these things (what I said).

 

What Panther fans have a problem with, are the absurd double standards and omissions when it comes to Newton, compared to other QB's.

[saints4life25]

hey here's a wild concept. make sure your seatbelts are buckled! okay, here we go:

why are you even here if not to discuss the NFL and its players

That is precisely why I'm here.

Just strange to me is all. The vast majority of this site seem more like Cam fans than Panther fans. Panther fans will literally throw every other person on the team under the bus to stick up for Cam. How many times in this thread has it been thrown around about Wilsons great defense being able to keep them in the game? While I completely understand that the Hawks have one of the best defenses we've seen in quite some time, the Panthers have had one of the top defenses in the NFL the last couple years.

Just last week, the defense held the team in the game, despite 2 turnovers, only to have Cam throw a pick 6 to seal it. Strangely, everyone here did nothing but make excuses.

To be fair, it's why I don't post on SR much. The Brees slobbering is unreal. They don't believe he can do any wrong. I'm of the belief he cost us a number of games this year, but it is what it is I guess. It's just on a whole other level here.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

There's nothing wrong with Wilson being any of these things.

 

What Panther fans have a problem with, are the absurd double standards and omissions when it comes to Newton, compared to other QB's.

 

that's the main thing here and a lot of the "durr cam huggers" people don't even consider that

 

look if i didn't give a poo what other people thought about the panthers/the NFL in general i wouldn't even post on this forum.  i doubt anyone else would either and it's just a given that these topics are going to come up especially with the ubiquitous nature of sports radio and TV coverage.

 

i mean we all operate with our biases because we're panthers fans. i doubt the saints fan hanging out in this topic is completely objective about drew brees.  but the way to fight bias isn't to go full retard in the other direction so that you're just as bad as the "nut huggers" you're supposedly going to war against.

[AceBoogie]

That is precisely why I'm here.

Just strange to me is all. The vast majority of this site seem more like Cam fans than Panther fans. Panther fans will literally throw every other person on the team under the bus to stick up for Cam. How many times in this thread has it been thrown around about Wilsons great defense being able to keep them in the game? While I completely understand that the Hawks have one of the best defenses we've seen in quite some time, the Panthers have had one of the top defenses in the NFL the last couple years.

Just last week, the defense held the team in the game, despite 2 turnovers, only to have Cam throw a pick 6 to seal it. Strangely, everyone here did nothing but make excuses.

To be fair, it's why I don't post on SR much. The Brees slobbering is unreal. They don't believe he can do any wrong. I'm of the belief he cost us a number of games this year, but it is what it is I guess. It's just on a whole other level here.

Again go pull the ACTUAL numbers our defense is not in the same league