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My QB classification

CelibatePimp

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Stats - A good QB should be able to put up good passing numbers in totality, yds, TDs, INT and rating

Wins - A good QB should help his team win. It's a team game I know but elite QBs can elevate the talent around them and mask team deficiencies.

Eye test - Some QBs have the above listed two but then you realize they are on a stacked team that masks their deficiencies well. They just don't seem to play right

 

Elite - Has all three AND a ring

Great - has the eye test and the wins

Good - has the stats and eye test or the wins and stats and mostly dependent on talent around him to produce

Might need to draft a QB soon - lacks stats and the eye test

 

Elite - Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Brees,

Great - Big Ben, Phillip Rivers, Luck

Good - Eli, Cam, Wilson, Dalton, Stafford, Romo, Palmer, Ryan, Flacco

Might need to draft a QB soon - everyone else

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Your reasoning seems inconsistent. You put Luck under "great" for having "the wins", but put guys like Newton, and Wilson under "good" for being "mostly dependent on talent around them to produce".

Does Luck not have one of the best receiving corps in the NFL? T.Y. Hilton is a top 5 WR right now himself, and the Colts added Andre Johnson

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Your reasoning seems inconsistent. You put Luck under "great" for having "the wins", but put guys like Newton, and Wilson under "good" for being "mostly dependent on talent around them to produce".

Does Luck not have one of the best receiving corps in the NFL? T.Y. Hilton is a top 5 WR right now himself, and the Colts added Andre Johnson

​Luck is great because he has all three, he lacks a ring thus keeping him out of the elite category. Newton doesn't have a winning career. Wilson is a game manager. He has won many games in his career when passing for under 150yds. He doesn't have the passing production.

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​Luck is great because he has all three, he lacks a ring thus keeping him out of the elite category. Newton doesn't have a winning season. Wilson is a game manager. He has won many games in his career when passing for under 150yds. He doesn't have the passing production.

​Uh, did the Panthers 2013 season not happen?

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​How do you go from "he doesn't have a winning season", to "I'm talking about career".

You aren't making any sense man.

Also, Just want to also point out the flaw in chastising another QB for lack of wins, but touting Luck for beating up on the AFC South half the season each year.

I meant to say career. It should be obvious to you that this ranking cannot be based on any individual season. Also, I started this because of the exact reason. Some QBs have wins but are not that good, hence the combination of those three to classify the QB.

We also had a bad NFCS last year, by your logic Cam should have beaten up on NO and ATL but we split with them.

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Also, I may not think Wilson should be the highest paid player in the history of the NFL by a huge margin, but I would not call him a "game manager".

​Maybe not a game manager. Let me say he is not asked to do much and thus does not have the passing production to be properly judged. If he were to throw more a game, I have a feeling he would play more like he did in NFCCG vs GB.

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