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How much does being a "player's coach" matter?

Mr. Scot

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Panther players have generally taken an "it's on us" stance when asked about the failures of the 2016 season.

Coaches...wellll, they've tended to agree (especially Rivera).

Yet even so, Rivera, McDermott and even Shula have commonly been supported by the players who have spoken out.

It is, however, worth remembering that back in 2001, players were defending George Seifert when fans were calling for him to be fired.

So the question is this: How much weight do you give the opinions that players express publicly in the evaluation of the coaching staff?

"I take them at their word" or "Well, what else would they say"?

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I'll be frank, a lot of times it IS on the players. As frustrating as things have been this season there's been a lot of situations where the right playcall was poorly executed. Fans blame coaches for that problem even though they literally can't force a player to do their job right on every snap.

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17 hours ago, fieryprophet said:

I'll be frank, a lot of times it IS on the players. As frustrating as things have been this season there's been a lot of situations where the right playcall was poorly executed. Fans blame coaches for that problem even though they literally can't force a player to do their job right on every snap.

Valid point.

The hard part is determining when a guy plays poorly vs when he's poorly coached.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Even with Rivera?

Even with him.  Communication is key in everything.  A former player who has won as a player and coach at the highest level has quite a unique insight and ability to know how to move men.  The two others I think of are strategy and team management.  All in that order.

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