Are you comfortable with the roster?

[The Huddler]

29 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

2 years ago.  I do think he is an improvement, but I do also worry about his age.  We need to draft a SS in the first 2 days to learn from him.

we are both wrong. 2014, 2015 season..

 

I saw 2016 probowl and forgot it was in January from the previous 2015 season.

 

 

 

that said, I still think he can come in here and produce with what I think is a much improved defense as opposed to the colts.

[TheRed]

1 minute ago, The Huddler said:

we were 15-1 and the #1 offense that year with JAGs for our WR corps.

 

Johnson can come in and be our #3

Expecting us to make it to another Super Bowl with a WR unit like that is basically borderline fantasy. Especially considering it was the weakness of that unit paired with an overmatched offensive line that lost us that Super Bowl. We won many razor thin close games in 2015 by sheer luck, you cannot simply expect to catch lightning in a bottle like that twice. Sure it's possible, but roster wise we must do everything we can to control what we can.

[Ace_Aladdin]

We also need another CB 

[TheRed]

Panthers fans have witnessed this team piss away two Super Bowls, yet still arrogantly keep trying to jam that square peg in a round hole never learning from past mistakes of this franchise.

I would think at some point self awareness would kick in.

Shame.

[The Huddler]

Just now, TheRed said:

Expecting us to make it to another Super Bowl with a WR unit like that is basically borderline fantasy. Especially considering it was the weakness of that unit paired with an overmatched offensive line that lost us that Super Bowl. We won many razor thin close games in 2015 by sheer luck, you cannot simply expect to catch lightning in a bottle like that twice. Sure it's possible, but roster wise we must do everything we can to control what we can.

I could be wrong but I think people are vastly under estimating Benjamin and Funchess.

 

 

 

I can write out my explanation later in getting eyeballed by the bossman.

 

 

 

I'm sure right before the season began in 2015 people said the exact same thing about the WR corps and us winning games saying its a fantasy. Well it happened. And we are largly the same team as far as scheme and coaching offensivly. If we can get into a rythm and grove and get our chemistry on par we are a damn good offense. This team is very reliant on vibe and aroma and by the looks of it it seems to be comming back this season.

 

 

 

again I think Funchess and Benjamin are underated and will exceed expectations especially Funchess. add in the draft, and my gut tells me we will be back in the ring throwing punches for the SB

 

 

 

I respect you as a poster and I like your content

[Ace_Aladdin]

If Fournette is gone then this guy should be good complimentary piece to J-Stew

 

[LinvilleGorge]

13 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

we were 15-1 and the #1 offense that year with JAGs for our WR corps.

 

Johnson can come in and be our #3

I'd feel a lot better about Shepard or Johnson as our #3 if we weren't assuming that Funchess is our #2.

If we go into the season with our top 4 WRs being KB, Funchess, Shepard, and Johnson then that's not good at all. Those four veteran WRs combined for under 1900 yards last season. That's basically one legit WR (KB) and three bottom of the roster type guys.

[Panther49er]

Everyone is ignoring the one guy on our current roster that will lose us multiple games by himself in 2017 if he is still with us:

Gano.

He fugging sucks in must-make situations and we need to upgrade. So no, I'm not happy with this roster. WR and OL depth also need to be addressed.

[The Huddler]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'd feel a lot better about Shepard or Johnson as our #3 if we weren't assuming that Funchess is our #2.

If we go into the season with our top 4 WRs being KB, Funchess, Shepard, and Johnson then that's not good at all. Those four veteran WRs combined for under 1900 yards last season. That's basically one legit WR (KB) and three bottom of the roster type guys.

I'm going on a limb and predicting Funchess breaks put in year three. Last year was too toxic and too many things pitted against him for him to do anything. The offense and team as a whole was straight stink and just off.

 

 

 

that said the good news is we still have the rest of FA and several high picks in the draft and June 1st cuts. Opportunities to get better. This FA period has been much better than any season in the past and we have been successful these season

 

 

 

I'm hoping we finally bust down the door and infiltrate the superior walls of good teams in the NFL and stay put instead of ramming our big ass log against the door. We have been ramming and recoiling past few seasons getting closer and closer each time. I'm hoping 2017 is the year we take that momentum through the door and were here to stay for the next decade till Cam retires

[TheRed]

7 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

I could be wrong but I think people are vastly under estimating Benjamin and Funchess.

 

 

 

I can write out my explanation later in getting eyeballed by the bossman.

 

 

 

I'm sure right before the season began in 2015 people said the exact same thing about the WR corps and us winning games saying its a fantasy. Well it happened. And we are largly the same team as far as scheme and coaching offensivly. If we can get into a rythm and grove and get our chemistry on par we are a damn good offense. This team is very reliant on vibe and aroma and by the looks of it it seems to be comming back this season.

 

 

 

again I think Funchess and Benjamin are underated and will exceed expectations especially Funchess. add in the draft, and my gut tells me we will be back in the ring throwing punches for the SB

 

 

 

I respect you as a poster and I like your content

I think we could count on one hand the number of people here that thought the 2015 Panthers team was going deep in the playoffs when Kelvin got hurt. I damn sure can't say the same for 2016, can you? I don't think anyone expected us to win only 6 games.

Yeah 2015 happened, and 2016 also happened when we arrogantly stood by thinking we could sustain what we had without making any meaningful additions while other franchises improved and built on what they already had.

I'm not all that worried about Kelvin or Devin.

I get it. You're hopeful for this WR core, I am too my friend. But we must learn from our past mistakes. And simple expecting 4th string receivers we picked up from the bottom of other teams rosters to play out of their minds and uplift our offense into a juggernaut again is misguided.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

I hope you're right about Funchess. I just don't have high hopes after he was getting such rave reviews last offseason, looked good in preseason, then the real games started and - poof - he just disappeared. A lot of people (including Ricky Proehl) legitimately thought he was going to push KB for the #1 spot. Not sure it's ever going to come together for him, but it'd sure be awesome if it did.

[motocross_cat]

DE is still a concern to me.  

We also need another LEGIT pass catcher, be it a tightend or reciver.  Out side of that its depth and grooming future players.

[TheRed]

We need an actual TE #2 as well. Dickson is done.

[UpstatePanther]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

Expecting us to make it to another Super Bowl with a WR unit like that is basically borderline fantasy. Especially considering it was the weakness of that unit paired with an overmatched offensive line that lost us that Super Bowl. We won many razor thin close games in 2015 by sheer luck, you cannot simply expect to catch lightning in a bottle like that twice. Sure it's possible, but roster wise we must do everything we can to control what we can.

@ Jags, 20-9, Margin: 11

vs Texans, 24-17, Margin: 7*

vs Saints, 27-22, Margin: 5*

@ Bucs, 37-23, Margin: 14

@ Hawks, 27-23, Margin: 4*

vs Eagles, 27-16, Margin: 11

vs Colts, 29-26, Margin: 3*

vs Packers, 37-29, Margin: 8

@ Titans, 27-10, Margin: 17

vs Skins, 44-16, Margin: 28

@ 'Boys, 33-14, Margin: 19

@ Saints, 41-38, Margin: 3*

vs Falcons, 38-0, Margin: 38

@ Giants, 38-35, Margin: 3*

@ Falcons, 20-13, Margin: -7

vs Bucs, 38-10, Margin: 28

vs Hawks, 31-24, Margin: 7*

vs Cardinals, 49-15, Margin: 34

 

average score of wins: 33(33.35) - 19(19.24), Margin: 14

* - 7 games that were in question. There were no games in those 7 that we won by sheer luck. Every single one of them, the Panthers earned the win, usually through a disciplined and gutsy last minute drive. 

i hear your concerns about the close games, and i think our "luck" caught up with us in 2016. but my point is that alot of that could have been counteracted with disciplined play from team leaders/coaches, and overall heart and determination. 2016 could have been alot different IMO.