Gantt thinks you're overreacting

[frash.exe]

his ace in the hole, bring up the "FOX ERA" of the NFL and his record in those years.

yea, check his W/L stats since 2006 to today, counting playoffs, and he's barely above .500.

we get it Darin, you wish to one day juggle Fox's ball bag and gag on his tent maker. Maybe that will finally quench your curiousity.

[KillerKat]

And Jeff Fisher's team is still playing hard for him. It's apparent from the way the Titans are playing that Fisher still has the respect of his team. I'm not sure that same could be said for Fox.

Exactly. And there's no comparison with Cowher. He owns both of them. Only 3 losing seasons in 15 years. That's it.

[frash.exe]

"flavor of the month"

I remember Bill Cowher being lobbied for on here as soon as he retired

[Fiz]

it's amazing how quickly the perception of gantt on this board has changed.

[Sam Mills Fan]

It's sad that the RHH continues to employ a guy that's essentially a troll as a reporter.

[Fireball77]

I dunno, Cowher's team sure looked like it quit on him his last year. They knew he was a lame duck and they played like it.

[Fiz]

I don't want to register just to say this, so someone ask him in what other profession could you fug up as badly as the Panthers did with Peppers, Jake, and trading the first and expect to keep your job.

think in your own professions of what the real world equivalent of that would be, and ask yourself if you'd keep your job.

[Kurb]

Gantt makes a very valid point.

Also of note is Fisher drafts have been less successful (I think) that the Panthers in recent years.

[Fireball77]

F-

I dunno...drafting Vince Young & letting Haynesworth go maybe?

[Kurb]

F-

I dunno...drafting Vince Young & letting Haynesworth go maybe?

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Pacman as well.

[TylerDurden]

I actually agree with him in that Fisher and Cowher and Fox and Coughlin are all the same type of coach. The dilimea is do you stick with Fox and have a Fisher type situation (still trying to get back to a Super Bowl) or fire him and see him end up winning a championship with another team like Coughlin did.

I personally think Fox is still a great coach and could be the next Couglin but that is a risk that needs to be taken. Sometimes a change just needs to happen.

Glad you brought Coughlin up. By all accounts when he was hired by the Jags as Head Coach, he was revered as an outstanding coach. Yet, he was fired years later.

The Giants hired him. He didn't live up to expectations. It was clear that if something dramatic didn't happen, he was going to be fired there as well. He had began losing the team - his infamous rules for players being late and punished for showing up at a 12 o'clock meeting at 11:50 instead of 11:45 for example... Even by Coughlin's own admission, if he hadn't came in and changed his approach, he would've lost the team and his job. He admitted to dramatically changing his own approach to the team and players... and that's what won them the Superbowl.

My point is, I don't think John Fox is going to dramatically change anything until he is fired. So that change would come with his next team, not here. Fox is already regarded as a players' coach, so there's not much he can do to change whatever is going on here, right now.

[Fiz]

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I dunno...drafting Vince Young & letting Haynesworth go maybe?

he had nothing to do with either of these picks.

Fisher was outspoken in his desire to draft Matt Leinart since they had Norm Chow in Tennessee at the time.

Haynesworth was a financial decision.

[natty]

Was really bugs me is that Fox and Hurney already went down the '21 of 22 starters returning' road and it didn't work. Here they are doing it again and it's not working. All I'm saying is that if the season ended today and it were my decision if he says, it'd be a hard one with the only goal being to win a superbowl. I'm anxious to see how this season plays out.

[Fireball77]

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Pacman as well.

Thank you, I knew there was another one I was missing! DUH for me!