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Is It Meeks,Davidson Or Fox

KatsAzz

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The whole first half of the Monday Dallas game, Jake did what he needed to do. The second half play calling on both sides of the ball went back to Fox ball.

The interception to Moose was on Moose-- Moose did not read the play and did not expect the ball to come his way, and did not even fight for it. For Jake it was a three step drop.

On Steve Smith-- even Steve Smith said he messed up on the slant and decided to duck back out and go, but Jake threw where he was supposed to be in stride on the slant. Who gave up the fumble in the end? The offensive line.

No one has lost confidence in the quarterback-- he played good.

The play calling though, the failure to adapt and change-- I do not think its Meeks or Davidson-- its Fox. The first half was their aggressive play calls. The second half was Fox.

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So now It's been Trgovac, Henning, Davidson, and Meeks. Anyone sense a common denominator?

the offense and defense are put in a position to fail. That isn't new. Fox has a run game and elected not to lean on it since before the playoff game.....he has not been forced out of it. He lets other teams dictate what the Panthers do......that is NOT the sign of a running team. A running team sticks with b/c superior talent in that regards will eventually win out. The OL is good....their strength isn't in pass blocking. He plays the OL, the QB, and WRs to there weaknesses and NOT to there strengths. Jake throwing often and early, Moose running deep routes, OL in pass protection, defense playing soft (with little pass rush)......there is little coaching done in Carolina.

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The defense did play good with 10 players! I agree that Julius Peppers is the biggest bust of the year for the Panthers-- what a waste for 17 million, go ahead and try to defend that overpaid, lazy ---whatever-- could say more but it would be inappropriate!

The offense-- the first half played lights out-- only 7 points, but they were smart moved the ball, they were efficient.

The second half was clearly Fox-- we stopped blitzing and running man and cover 1 that was working, and went back to conservative, play not to break Fox garbage. The offense too went back to Fox style, and we completely abandoned the run.

In the first half, especially with Jake in the no huddle, we were clearly doing it, but then we gave that up in the second half.

Fox and Hurney, for all the reasons that I and half the football world said, big contracts to garbage players like Julius Peppers and Fox for playing his style of football, never adjusting need to be fired immediately.

I would not have even allowed them back on the plane home--seriously. Let Jeff Davidson take over until the end of the season. Thats it for Fox--

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it's the players.if these coaches could go out and play,i betcha some of these players wouldn't have a job,they'd lose them to our coaches

Please....if you ask Peyton Manning to do a lot of passes where he has to roll out and be mobile.........that is playing to his weakness and not his strength.....we see Carolina coaches do this to players on both sides of the ball. You put people in position to fail....and the majority of the time they will.

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Please....if you ask Peyton Manning to do a lot of passes where he has to roll out and be mobile.........that is playing to his weakness and not his strength.....we see Carolina coaches do this to players on both sides of the ball. You put people in position to fail....and the majority of the time they will.

Players play,coaches coach,and these same coaches have been successful,as well as these players.On the field all the players have to function together and do the right thing.All it takes is one player not doing his assignment to screw up the play called

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it's the players.if these coaches could go out and play,i betcha some of these players wouldn't have a job,they'd lose them to our coaches

Yeah bro your smart. We only have Deangelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, Steve Smith, and one of the best run blocking offensive lines, but can't get a first down in a quarter and a half and only put up 7 points. Definately not the playcalling.

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One dimensional....

You just posted on the keys to the offense thread, and said to stop the turnovers. You know who is responsible for the turnovers right? The guy distributing the ball. I would rather run run run run run run run and not turn the ball over and keep it close, then have the joke of a QB give the game away.

And speaking of "one dimensional", you know who else was? The 16-0 Patriots, last years Arizona Cardinals, and arguable last years super bowl champs, the Steelers!

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