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Lack of speed on the outside

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We have seen this lately in non-Ginn times but the Eagle game plan last night  totally factored in the fact we don’t have a WR to take the top off. 

Not every team can do it but good defenses can.....Philly had no concerns about our WRs beating their DBs.  Hence why their DBs were singled up last night with no help over the top and the Eagles overplaying everything in front of them. 

They sold out on runs.  Often had 8-9 crashing down instantly....and our big slow WRs left to try to beat one defender with no help.   Philly simply gave us handful of routes they were okay with us having.   Out routes for example.  

When this O can’t threaten vertically....it has consistently had major issues functioning. 

3 deepest passes last night were to a RB,  1 to Fun where he where a DB flew past him for a dropped pick and a go nowhere Hail Mary into a pack.  

That is a problem.  An offense built on running that can’t run block...to set up the vertical pass (which doesn’t exist).  

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9 minutes ago, CRA said:

We have seen this lately in non-Ginn times but the Eagle game plan last night  totally factored in the fact we don’t have a WR to take the top off. 

Not every team can do it but good defenses can.....Philly had no concerns about our WRs beating their DBs.  Hence why their DBs were singled up last night with no help over the top and the Eagles overplaying everything in front of them. 

They sold out on runs.  Often had 8-9 crashing down instantly....and our big slow WRs left to try to beat one defender with no help.   Philly simply gave us handful of routes they were okay with us having.   Out routes for example.  

When this O can’t threaten vertically....it has consistently had major issues functioning. 

3 deepest passes last night were to a RB,  1 to Fun where he where a DB flew past him for a dropped pick and a go nowhere Hail Mary into a pack.  

That is a problem.  An offense built on running that can’t run block...to set up the vertical pass (which doesn’t exist).  

Shula almost has it, just a few more swings.

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I don't think they needed to sell out at all. They were dominant with four.

I think the deep game has been hard to judge like the the RBs because I don't think Cam has been accurate enough this season to give guys a chance other than that KB TD last week. Makes sense with the shoulder and lack of chemistry with a deep ball WR. I think they'll figure it out but Ginn had great chemistry with him. We just need someone you can't forget about. 

Their strengths were our weaknesses. 

 

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Just now, Jeremy Igo said:

On the bright side Samuel did get a couple of PI calls down field last night. 

True. Left out the shot to Samuel where he was double covered up the seam with PI

Samuel has pure speed but given his youth it doesn’t seem to be good NFL WR speed yet.  

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3 minutes ago, ShutDwn said:

I don't think they needed to sell out at all. They were dominant with four.

Well their entire scheme last night was all about not being afraid of our WRs and clobbering everything in front of them.  

but yeah, when your front 4 is that dominant it makes that even easier.   

But our guys were one on one all game on the outside with little help.  We just couldn’t threaten the DBs.  

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Just now, CRA said:

Well their entire scheme last night was all about not being afraid of our WRs and clobbering everything in front of them.  

but yeah, when your front 4 is that dominant it makes that even easier.   

But our guys were one on one all game on the outside with little help.  We just couldn’t threaten the DBs.  

The deep ball and the run game issues are definitely intertwined. 

It's just ridiculous Cam has to throw 50 times and also run like that. No QB in the NFL holds up taking that punishment and having the stamina to throw well. It's like making him switch between boxing and then golf.

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5 minutes ago, ShutDwn said:

The deep ball and the run game issues are definitely intertwined. 

It's just ridiculous Cam has to throw 50 times and also run like that. No QB in the NFL holds up taking that punishment and having the stamina to throw well. It's like making him switch between boxing and then golf.

Need to use CAP and Armah and get the run game going.

Need to use bot of the  2 TEs in the passing game just not blocking

Need to layer routes so defenses is stretched and creates more space for the receivers.

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